Parts Bubble Bursting???

[Gartrac G6]

20 years ago I paid 50 quid for standard wings, 35 is exceedingly cheap for RS wings, even 20 years ago.

£35 quid sounds right,i used to buy a couple of pairs at a time and keep them in stock.

[dustydog]

This is why restorations are scarce now due to inflated price hikes in spares

[RS2000EXPRESS]

Reproducing reasonably priced quality parts is the only way ahead now! For me if I can replace something with the above then I'm not bothered whether it has Ford printed on it or not!

Tim

[RSSRED]

I keep hearing this investor talk.

So anyone point me to an Escort that has been bought my these "investors"

I really can't see the big investor players giving a monkeys about a 15 grand car.

So they got out of property and invested in rusty 30 year old Fords.... I don't think so.

Sorry to rant but the "problem" with the "scene" is people continually bleat on about prices and the past. 'Kin hell they're not even that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Yeah yeah 10/15/20 grand is silly but they're obviously "worth" that as they sell.

Boring boring boring same old rubbish.

Yeah yeah they used to be £6.50 a dozen but times have changed live with it.

Very well said that man, I bought my first mexico for £2000 in 1992, time moves on, have prices really gone mad ? really?
If you don't like the price don't pay it and take up knitting.

[rwdrs]

I keep hearing this investor talk.

So anyone point me to an Escort that has been bought my these "investors"

I really can't see the big investor players giving a monkeys about a 15 grand car.

So they got out of property and invested in rusty 30 year old Fords.... I don't think so.

Sorry to rant but the "problem" with the "scene" is people continually bleat on about prices and the past. 'Kin hell they're not even that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Yeah yeah 10/15/20 grand is silly but they're obviously "worth" that as they sell.

Boring boring boring same old rubbish.

Yeah yeah they used to be £6.50 a dozen but times have changed live with it.

We are not talking about institutional investors or the City of London, it would appear that within the space of 3-4 years that prices shot up.
Now it could be that the market in old Escorts caught up but the more likely scenario is that a few people (not institutions) have seen buying cars and parts as a way of making omney seeing as the rest of the economy is kaput.
As the banks stopped lending and thus people couldn't buy a second or third house (by to let) then they found other ways of using their disposable incomes to make money.
It's like the classic car boom at the end of the eighties, when E-Types, Lotus Cortinas and Mk1 Cooper Ss went ballistic pricewise, then came the crash...

The point of whether 10-20 K is a lot of money is a matter of perspective and, as these were cheap (working man's) Escorts, not Porsches or Ferraris, I think many find those prices quite steep. A cheap hobby has turned into an expensive game of soldiers for most.

[rwdrs]

Very well said that man, I bought my first mexico for £2000 in 1992, time moves on, have prices really gone mad ? really?
If you don't like the price don't pay it and take up knitting.

That's the argument that people use when they say "ooooh, my house is worth X, when we bought 3 years ago it was only worth Y..."
The trouble is they forget that the money has to come from somewhere and if nobody can afford to buy then prices will inevitably fall again (whether property, cars or whatever).

[Dobbo63]

One or two on this site have made a nice few quid from
Parts by ebaying them for top before offering them to site users at a more realistic price.

[Miniliteman]

It's a matter of supply and demand, doesn't matter if it's houses, cars or parts. Difference with the old days is that if you bought a NOS rear spoiler from Roy Nunn at ND 1993 for £100 only a few people would know that. Now if the same item fetches £1000 on ebay everyone will have seen it and that becomes the (new) norm.

[RS2000EXPRESS]

It's a matter of supply and demand, doesn't matter if it's houses, cars or parts. Difference with the old days is that if you bought a NOS rear spoiler from Roy Nunn at ND 1993 for £100 only a few people would know that. Now if the same item fetches £1000 on ebay everyone will have seen it and that becomes the (new) norm.

Reproduce a decent quality spoiler for a £100 and nobody will even consider an NOS one!

[jimmer]

If you cannot afford the parts or cars do what others have always done. Fit aftermarket parts or buy an 1100 and dress it up as an RS? It amazes me the number of people buying a Sport or Pop and claiming its an RS! By buying vinyl graphics and buying a V5 of ebay. Who gives a shit, you may ask, only the poor bugger who buys it afterwards and is defrauded of his money. Real Escort users drive any spec of Escort as long as its not FWD! And enjoy it too many trailer queens poncing around!

[Martin]

I keep hearing this investor talk.

So anyone point me to an Escort that has been bought my these "investors"

I really can't see the big investor players giving a monkeys about a 15 grand car.

So they got out of property and invested in rusty 30 year old Fords.... I don't think so.

Sorry to rant but the "problem" with the "scene" is people continually bleat on about prices and the past. 'Kin hell they're not even that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Yeah yeah 10/15/20 grand is silly but they're obviously "worth" that as they sell.

Boring boring boring same old rubbish.

Yeah yeah they used to be £6.50 a dozen but times have changed live with it.

If it's boring stop replying

They are MK2 Ford Escorts and prices are now out of the reach of lots of people that could and have bought them over the last 20 years.

Yes inflation increases things, but you could by a very good solid RS2000 for £6k and an RS1800 for £15k in 2006 (8 years ago). Even with 5% inflation a year that doesn't come close to where these cars have been priced in the last couple of years.

[Hoonabator]

If it's boring stop replying

They are MK2 Ford Escorts and prices are now out of the reach of lots of people that could and have bought them over the last 20 years.

Yes inflation increases things, but you could by a very good solid RS2000 for £6k and an RS1800 for £15k in 2006 (8 years ago). Even with 5% inflation a year that doesn't come close to where these cars have been priced in the last couple of years.

And in 2000 a solid RS2000 was what? £2k...3k?. Your point is?

[Martin]

And in 2000 a solid RS2000 was what? £2k...3k?. Your point is?

At £6k they were easily justifiable as a second or third car without worrying about taking them out in all weathers and all over the country.

As the prices increased they become less justifiable and less likely to be used regularly due to the value and money tied up in them.

Also, I don't remember finding many if any mint RS2000's for £2k in 2000

[Hoonabator]

You said solid not mint.

I got mine then so I know they were around.

But why worry about using a lets say 15k solid RS2000?

I dare say people don't worry about using your 15k everyday car.


I know it may sound shocking too some but they are only cars that are insured and replaceable.

Oh and don't say because its an investment...

[Martin]

You said solid not mint.

I got mine then so I know they were around.

But why worry about using a lets say 15k solid RS2000?

I dare say people don't worry about using your 15k everyday car.


I know it may sound shocking too some but they are only cars that are insured and replaceable.

Oh and don't say because its an investment...

But are they replaceable ??

You can pick up a 3yo car easily to replace your current everyday drive.

We know how hard it is to replace a good MK1 or MK2

I didn't buy any of my classic cars as an investment and usually broke even or even lost money on most of them, but they are my hobby so I look on it like a golf membership or smoking and the loses are my cost of enjoyment.