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    After reading the thread on the RS 1800 Custom for sale it strengthens the worry i personaly have of selling my car in a safe way??

    How or what is the best/safe way??

    People go to great lengths to get these cars and thats one of the reasons for not putting mine on the open market.

    So what is the way would you say???

    And just to be straight!! this is not a dig at any of the remarks on the thread nor is it a way of putting a indirect for sale add on here!! as many who have spoken with me over the last 6-8 months about the issue will confirm.

    Regards John

  • #2
    I am having scammers contacting me about my BMW.
    Even a local trader I know got his fingers burnt. Foreign gentleman turned up to buy a car, False Driving licence, False credit card etc. Credit card company then refunded payment to original card owner and the trader has lost the money! Be VERY careful.
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    • #3
      I think to be fair any seller has the right to ask for any id they feel they require. Unfortunately some people take offence at this but it's the buyers privallage and I dont blame them..

      These cars are worth alot of money and as we know they do go missing to frequently..

      If you don't like it then don't buy it..



      Frosty did you know they were scammers by the fact they were interested in it
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      • #4
        Dont part with the car untill the payment is cleared and in your account
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        Back with a MK1

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        • #5
          Originally posted by alancdavis View Post
          Dont part with the car untill the payment is cleared and in your account
          As above, still be very carefull as cheques can still bounce at about 8-9 days a friend got caught out, a bloke said he would pay cash in to his bank account at a different branch, which when he contacted his bank to see if the money was there, the bank confirmed that a payment had cleared for £450.00 paid in earlier that day, so he dispached the goods and 3 days later the payment was taken out as it had bounced,

          What the sneeky F---er had done was pay in £448.00 by cheque and £2.00 cash which came up as cash in cleared, then the cheque bounces and he's got your goods for £2.00, ditches the pay as you go mobile and off scott free, some right scammers out there, cant beat meeting some one at a friends address with your car, but then to a genuine buyer it also looks dodgey, tough one, wish i had the answer
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          • #6
            Only real safe way is cash or money paid direct into your bank account. Even bankers drafts can be stolen. Best way if you don't want to handle the cash is get buyer to view car, take cash deposit, then get them to bank transfer the money. Set yourself up with internet banking, you can see it go in. For their piece of mind show them passport drivers licence utility bills etc confirming who you are. The rest is down to good old fashioned trust and follow your instincts. Never take a cheque drawn on a foreign bank, these can be returned weeks later. The normal clearing time (uk clearing banks, not building soc)for a cheque when i worked at barclays was 4.5 working days.(granted 20 years ago) We could still ring the drawers bank with a "late return" on the middle of the 5th working day!
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            • #7
              I've just put my bike up for sale, I'm only going to sell it to someone I know

              When I sold my Ranger a few months back, I picked the guy up at the train station, did the deal away from my house, took him to his bank and he drew the cash out at the counter and put it in my hand, felt safest way.
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              • #8
                [QUOTE=RUDDY;549635]I've just put my bike up for sale, I'm only going to sell it to someone I know

                When I sold my Ranger a few months back, I picked the guy up at the train station, did the deal away from my house, took him to his bank and he drew the cash out at the counter and put it in my hand, felt safest way.[/QUOTET
                This is deffo the best method! imo
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                Hefty is the new slim!
                Bald is the new bushy!
                Cheese is the new no cheese guarenteed!
                Muddy is defo the new shineeeey! (Copyright Grum 07)
                Red Escorts are now Capris, thanks midlands Plod!
                48's are the new bike carbs !

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                • #9
                  [quote=Frosticles;549616]I am having scammers contacting me about my BMW.
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                  I'm having the same problem

                  Some sad nutter with a 3 Series wanting to do a swap.....
                  Cheers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RUDDY View Post
                    I've just put my bike up for sale, I'm only going to sell it to someone I know

                    When I sold my Ranger a few months back, I picked the guy up at the train station, did the deal away from my house, took him to his bank and he drew the cash out at the counter and put it in my hand, felt safest way.


                    That just sounds wrong son
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RUDDY View Post
                      I've just put my bike up for sale, I'm only going to sell it to someone I know

                      When I sold my Ranger a few months back, I picked the guy up at the train station, did the deal away from my house, took him to his bank and he drew the cash out at the counter and put it in my hand, felt safest way.
                      I've been thinking about this lately as I've read a few threads on Pistonheads and the RS1800 ad on here that make me concious of the risks when selling. However, as a buyer I'd be a bit wary of someone selling a car when I haven't seen it at their house, so you can't win I guess...

                      I was thinking that I'll ask for photo ID and get them to meet me at another address for the first viewing. Then when/if they come back to collect the car (and still not sure how to deal with the matter of £10K or so cash/bank transfer) then they can come to my house to confirm the details on the V5.

                      I'd have to take the risk that they aren't put off by not being able to see the V5 at the first viewing so as not to reveal my address. This would help to deter people coming to view the car so they can 'case the joint' for a return visit later on. Of course it isn't fool proof as they could follow me home I suppose or they could grab the keys during the viewing. As I'm not the biggest of people then I wouldn't fancy my chances against a determined car thief.

                      I'm getting quite paranoid about selling it due to the stories I've heard recently (like one case where the 'buyer' swopped the spare keys with some other ones, then came later back and simply drove it away). When I do sell it I may even consider getting a dealer to sell it on commision or simply just px it, but the car I'm planning on buying should be a similar value, so I'll no doubt get a poor deal.

                      I'm starting to get quite concerned about having the car back on the road incase someone realises where I keep it (as it is currently 'hidden' having been in my garage over 10 years, even my neighbours have forgotten it's there). I thought that the values of RS cars would be low enough thesedays to put all but the most despairate of theives off, but apparently I was wrong on that score...

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                      • #12
                        Meet them in a public place ask for the cash as i think if some one wants a car they can arrange to have the cash from the bank never meet where the cars kept if its kept some where else take the car to your home address then once they have gone and they dont want the car move it back to where you keep it John cash all the way mate
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Andyc View Post
                          Meet them in a public place ask for the cash as i think if some one wants a car they can arrange to have the cash from the bank never meet where the cars kept if its kept some where else take the car to your home address then once they have gone and they dont want the car move it back to where you keep it John cash all the way mate
                          Bank transfer is surely safer andy as at least you have a trail to follow.. And you won't get dodgy notes
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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE=Martin;549638]
                            Originally posted by Frosticles View Post
                            I am having scammers contacting me about my BMW.
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                            I'm having the same problem

                            Some sad nutter with a 3 Series wanting to do a swap.....
                            pmsl. Bell.....................end.

                            Keep at em son.
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                            • #15
                              TBH Its not till you sit and realy think of all the areas of a sale, you then realise the risks!!

                              Cash- is it real or fake, some of the fake stuff can and does fool people

                              It's ok if it's 2-3k but when its in the hight numbers then its a gamble

                              I think for me the big issue is the theft part. there are so many options as to how they get to know where the car is.

                              I think in so many ways the price of the mk1 and 2 escorts are killing the joy of ownership.

                              mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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