rolling roads

[lee bishop]

no Lee, obviously rich's rolling roads establishments, all FOUR of them, are talking out their assholesim confused
next time rich, just say its got a standard 110bhp and be done with it

what you on about you daft apeth, i complimented him on great output

not at any point did i say " you b***sh**ting c**t "

cant you pay compliments on here anymore with getting abused

[grum]

what you on about you daft apeth, i complimented him on great output

not at any point did i say " you b***sh**ting c**t "

cant you pay compliments on here anymore with getting abused

tee hee

[lee bishop]

tee hee

come on explain yourself

[grum]

come on explain yourself

well Lee, the old rolling road figures that peeps put up always seem to provide debate

known rich for a few years now and i know hes not one to call a tall order when it comes to things like this - just no reason to add to the figure he was given cos whats the point ? - he could have said its got this or that, but didnt, just the figure he was given, and all of a sudden the doubters are out in force

maybe next time he should keep quiet - but there are a load of peeps out there who know the car, have done for a long time and know what i drives and performs like - rich im sure, was just telling of his exploits at the rolling road for them to know the old shed is still 'healthy' after all these years

[hally]

bhp is a shit figure and can be whatever the operater wants! example a mate of mine had his cosworth on rollers and the operater was saying the bhp was 240, its doing this and that! my mate replyed you did all the work a year ago! all a sudden power was up at 265 and its running great! where did 25 bhp come from in a couple of minutes of conversation?

[taffr]

is this thread about roads that roll through the mountains????

[Darran]

ht

When i was talking to HT about a pinto, they said 190bhp and 150ft/lb was the best they can get from a 2000cc

Totally agree.

My mates 2.1 HT pinto made 198bhp and @ 158ft/lbs

My 2.2 Ht pinto makes 211bhp and 172ft/lbs

But don't forget these are dyno figures and would read more on some rolling roads.

[mk1gaz]

What about all these new 2 litre duratecs that make 300+bhp and 210 ibls feet of torque then ? If you can only get 90 ibls feet a litre (or so they reckon) then it's gotta be bullshit for sure or they've bribed the dyno operators !!!!!!!

[Darran]

16v

But are any making true 300bhp??

ive heard of a few making 200+ torque...very impressive

[TimGR]

ive heard of a few making 200+ torque...very impressive

As above, not possible from 2000cc

[mk1gaz]

So if this 90 ibls/feet a litre rule is true then a 2 or 2.1 litre's max torque can only be around 180ibls/feet . Torque isn't capacity related though it changes with the amount of air an engine can pump per cycle i've noticed . The more air drawn into the cylinders and then expelled the more the torque reading usually , for example when i fit one of those shitty foam air filters on my engine the car drops 13 ibls/feet without any other changes !!!!!!!!!

[Darran]

16v

As above, not possible from 2000cc

2.3 made @ 220.

Loads more than say a 2.3 n/a cossy

[andypipe]

The maximum torque per litre figure of 90 was for older engines. With the way they design engines now it is possible to got a tad over 100 per litre. Nissan did it in the late stages of the super tourers in 2000

[richy c]

Totally agree.

My mates 2.1 HT pinto made 198bhp and @ 158ft/lbs

My 2.2 Ht pinto makes 211bhp and 172ft/lbs

But don't forget these are dyno figures and would read more on some rolling roads.

well yep,i cant argue with that,i dont really understand torque figures etc. so i've not made up a figure. all it must be is that slark's number must be wrong.so when i cant get hold of them i will ask .meanwhile i'll get me coat.wish i hadn't said any thing now

[mk1gaz]

The maximum torque per litre figure of 90 was for older engines. With the way they design engines now it is possible to got a tad over 100 per litre. Nissan did it in the late stages of the super tourers in 2000

So torque isn't capacity related after all it's air volume pumping related instead then . Force air into a cylinder with a turbo/supercharger/nitrous etc and the torque figuire shoots up without any capacity increase so torque doesn't have a max reading per litre at all then ? Is this another myth i wonder ?