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    I saw a 190e cosworth go for £292,000 plus anti last week and escorts are ridiculous now.unfortunately i had to sell my RS2000 a few years ago to save my business and mortgage.A lot of the guys on here met me 30 odd years ago and a lot on here have benefited from free spares and help keeping their cars going.I have just turned 51 and for the first time for the past few years I find myself without an escort and it hurts like hell.I would say I am a genuine Rs enthusiast and I simply can't afford one and don't see that changing in the future.i sold my car to a relative who said I could buy it back when I got on my feet,he didn't drive it and sold it for a nice profit,it has since been sold again netting someone £10,000 profit and the new owner bought it to do the same,no interest in the car just pound signs.I know guys now jumping on the band wagon in Glasgow who are suddenly interested in our cars just to make a buck.I have a great collection of 1/43 escorts right enough so that will have to

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    Unfortunately a lot of money men now involved with the cars.
    When nice cars were 3-5k they were truly affordable. Now.................
    I, like you Johnny have always had a car. First one was at 17 & 49 now. If I didn't already have one then there would be no way that I could ever afford one.
    A lot of the great times we all had over the years have all but gone now which is a huge shame.
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    • #3
      If you cant afford a concourse car ( like me ) why not buy something reasonable and build it to some thing you want

      The RS letters on the V5 are what you pay for

      Build to your own spec and you have what you want,,,who gives a dam if the V5 says 1100 pop


      Just off the get my flak jacket now to prepare for the barrage of abuse,
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Frosticles View Post
        Unfortunately a lot of money men now involved with the cars.
        When nice cars were 3-5k they were truly affordable. Now.................
        I, like you Johnny have always had a car. First one was at 17 & 49 now. If I didn't already have one then there would be no way that I could ever afford one.
        A lot of the great times we all had over the years have all but gone now which is a huge shame.
        Am gutted mate for genuine escort guys like Ders can't afford an escort anymore.i remember been laughed at for driving my mk2s when they weren't trendy

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bigjohnie View Post
          I saw a 190e cosworth go for £292,000 plus anti last week and escorts are ridiculous now.unfortunately i had to sell my RS2000 a few years ago to save my business and mortgage.A lot of the guys on here met me 30 odd years ago and a lot on here have benefited from free spares and help keeping their cars going.I have just turned 51 and for the first time for the past few years I find myself without an escort and it hurts like hell.I would say I am a genuine Rs enthusiast and I simply can't afford one and don't see that changing in the future.i sold my car to a relative who said I could buy it back when I got on my feet,he didn't drive it and sold it for a nice profit,it has since been sold again netting someone £10,000 profit and the new owner bought it to do the same,no interest in the car just pound signs.I know guys now jumping on the band wagon in Glasgow who are suddenly interested in our cars just to make a buck.I have a great collection of 1/43 escorts right enough so that will have to
          For years true enthusiasts and down to earth people have been able to afford these cars, but it's all changed! The scene has become quite boring at times with posers, quick money makers, and the wealthy pushing up the prices to get what they want and to be able to be seen looking good driving their cars around in front of shop windows! I consider myself as being so lucky to own one as I bought mine in 1991 for £3000, but I certainly would never be able to afford another one now, should I lose the one I have! Bring back the old days when our mates loved and ran these cars and we were all able to afford the prices of parts too!

          Tim

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RS2000EXPRESS View Post
            For years true enthusiasts and down to earth people have been able to afford these cars, but it's all changed! The scene has become quite boring at times with posers, quick money makers, and the wealthy pushing up the prices to get what they want and to be able to be seen looking good driving their cars around in front of shop windows! I consider myself as being so lucky to own one as I bought mine in 1991 for £3000, but I certainly would never be able to afford another one now, should I lose the one I have! Bring back the old days when our mates loved and ran these cars and we were all able to afford the prices of parts too!

            Tim
            Good man Tim you have a lovely car too mate

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bigjohnie View Post
              I saw a 190e cosworth go for £292,000 plus anti last week and escorts are ridiculous now.unfortunately i had to sell my RS2000 a few years ago to save my business and mortgage.A lot of the guys on here met me 30 odd years ago and a lot on here have benefited from free spares and help keeping their cars going.I have just turned 51 and for the first time for the past few years I find myself without an escort and it hurts like hell.I would say I am a genuine Rs enthusiast and I simply can't afford one and don't see that changing in the future.i sold my car to a relative who said I could buy it back when I got on my feet,he didn't drive it and sold it for a nice profit,it has since been sold again netting someone £10,000 profit and the new owner bought it to do the same,no interest in the car just pound signs.I know guys now jumping on the band wagon in Glasgow who are suddenly interested in our cars just to make a buck.I have a great collection of 1/43 escorts right enough so that will have to
              That's a shame you had to sell up but needs must and all that. Me and Fiona were talking about the old sose days not long after I'd bought my Mex and it was all a good laugh......then we had kids lol.
              We wondered how you were getting on too
              cheeRS

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              • #8
                If only we hadn't raced or rallied Escorts - Think how much more we could have had, and how many you could have had - My Dad had Merc 190E 16V - Some would say Cosworth - It was an auto, great for Mum on the way home from the Golf Club.
                Just think we could have put away a new car and never used it !
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                • #9
                  I sold an RS a few months ago that I took In Px and it was 90% dealers that were interested!! weren't interested in the car really just the fact that the v5 was right and was back up for sale in 48hrs . I'm going to sell my 2 escorts this year and going to buy something exotic like a lamborgini or ferrari better value for money

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bigjohnie View Post
                    I saw a 190e cosworth go for £292,000 plus anti last week and escorts are ridiculous now.unfortunately i had to sell my RS2000 a few years ago to save my business and mortgage.A lot of the guys on here met me 30 odd years ago and a lot on here have benefited from free spares and help keeping their cars going.I have just turned 51 and for the first time for the past few years I find myself without an escort and it hurts like hell.I would say I am a genuine Rs enthusiast and I simply can't afford one and don't see that changing in the future.i sold my car to a relative who said I could buy it back when I got on my feet,he didn't drive it and sold it for a nice profit,it has since been sold again netting someone £10,000 profit and the new owner bought it to do the same,no interest in the car just pound signs.I know guys now jumping on the band wagon in Glasgow who are suddenly interested in our cars just to make a buck.I have a great collection of 1/43 escorts right enough so that will have to
                    BJ , take comfort in the knowledge that we had the best of it.

                    The best cars.
                    The best shows.
                    The best days of the RSOC.
                    The best prices.

                    Above all , the best laughs.

                    I remember when you and the Scots boys came down to a local RSOC club night in Cumbria about 88. Them were the days mate when we drove the cars and got enjoyment out of them, a show weekend every Sunday throughout Summer and no fear of putting miles on the car.

                    Today's buyers are motivated by image and profit and are only playing at being Escort enthusiasts until a buyer comes along.

                    Unfortunately I've been battling cancer since last July and I must admit I'm pleased I no longer have an old car sat in the garage, still keep in touch with the boys and the German 944 trips were the best fun I've had in cars since the mid 80's RS shows.

                    Anyway son, you'll be getting your bus pass soon
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                    • #11
                      Paul, Dident know you had not been well, I hope all goes well for you.

                      My son was struck with the same blight but thank goddness he is getting over it now

                      Keep up your fight and everyone on here hopes you win and have a full recovery
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                      • #12
                        Try and cure them

                        It's an idea that our cars only be sold to members / associate members through the official clubs. Trying to vet the genuine buyer/enthusiast to maintain a sensible value before the bubble bursts might be a thought.

                        Pretty impossible I'm sure but while demand outstrips supply, I suppose the price will still keep going galactic.

                        Good news for the haves' but not the have nots'.

                        Steelability will also make owners think twice about taking their precious metal out in public, shame of the highest order!

                        I wish the none Ford lovers would p--s off and buy a Leyland.

                        Best Regards
                        Phill
                        AVO 5001

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bigjohnie View Post
                          Am gutted mate for genuine escort guys like Ders can't afford an escort anymore.i remember been laughed at for driving my mk2s when they weren't trendy
                          How is Ders, Haven't seen him for a very long time.

                          Yep, remember all the jibes from the XR3 & Turbo lads about how crap my Mexico was compared to their "Modern" cars.........
                          Autumn Has Arrived by Kevin Frost, on Flickr

                          CHES'S UNDERSTUDY...........

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                          • #14
                            selling cars has become a pain, all I got was people commenting on a car they didn't know, which I do think harmed the sale.

                            But on the bright side, a few people on here turned out to be good honest people and gave good guidance and advise. Half of them remembered the car from the 80s and the fun and break downs they had. I've been advised to take it to auction if I want to sell it, purely for what it is

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RUDDY View Post
                              BJ , take comfort in the knowledge that we had the best of it.

                              The best cars.
                              The best shows.
                              The best days of the RSOC.
                              The best prices.

                              Above all , the best laughs.

                              I remember when you and the Scots boys came down to a local RSOC club night in Cumbria about 88. Them were the days mate when we drove the cars and got enjoyment out of them, a show weekend every Sunday throughout Summer and no fear of putting miles on the car.

                              Today's buyers are motivated by image and profit and are only playing at being Escort enthusiasts until a buyer comes along.

                              Unfortunately I've been battling cancer since last July and I must admit I'm pleased I no longer have an old car sat in the garage, still keep in touch with the boys and the German 944 trips were the best fun I've had in cars since the mid 80's RS shows.

                              Anyway son, you'll be getting your bus pass soon
                              hi paul i didnt know you were unwell mate if any of my body parts are any good to you just ask.great days with great guys

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