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  • #31
    Originally posted by Tim View Post
    i just find it funny people moan when they see concourse cars being trailed about stored in bubbles and not being used as much as they could but then they also moan at the rallies for used them as ford did in the 70s lol
    These shells were not cars taken from the dealers and used for rallying these were extra shells specifically for the purpose

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    • #32
      Originally posted by JAVAGREENGUF View Post
      What a car.....What a waste!!!!!!!!! A mk1 Worthers?
      TRUE!

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      • #33
        Utter and complete waste of a lovely little car IMO.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by rwdrs View Post
          Firstly this is a bit narrow minded/greedy way of looking at it and secondly it removes good cars from the market makes the Mk1/MkII much more expensive and people that would love one will surely never to be able to get hold of one, there are plenty of other cars that can be rallied too!

          If that's you're reasoning the first cars to sent to the forests must surely be the remaining 18s and 16s, if people keep on consuming these cars when will it stop as these people with 50-100K for a car will destroy even the most expensive shells to fulfill their greed, and at first the "ordinary" RS's will then be consumed and then it really will mean the 18s will it.

          BTW as I said nobody's forcing people to hurtle through the forests are they?

          Where does 'greed' come into it?? It's a simply case of demand massively outweighing supply. Nobody 'forced' you to want an RS2000 road car but you went out and bought one...therefore removing the opportunity for someone else to own and cherish it. I really quite fancy a Ferrari 288 GTO though I don't have the means to buy one, but you won't hear me branding those who can afford them as greedy...that in my opinion really would be a narrow minded way of looking at it.

          Originally posted by rwdrs
          These shells were not cars taken from the dealers and used for rallying these were extra shells specifically for the purpose
          I seem to remember that every mechanic that worked in our dealership through the '70s had a RS2000 or Mexico, and almost all were used on night rallies at the weekends! I think you'll find that quite a few standard RS1800s left the showrooms and were used as either road rally or stage rally cars in private hands at the time too...the rallying success of the RS Escort was Fords greatest sales tool!!


          Like I say it's an emotive subject, we are all entitled to our opinions, and I'm certainly not knocking yours by the way.


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          • #35
            I see nothing wrong with this car being turned into a rally car.

            Where are all the shells coming from that are being chucked at the scenery ?

            From good condition road cars of course.

            If it were my car I certainly wouldn't be leaving it as a std 1300 xl when a much more appealing car could be made out of it.
            Cheers Rob.



            www.RWD-Escort.co.uk

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            • #36
              i contacted the guy & yes its going to be RALLIED, this seems to be a very touchy subject for some people...we all know that guys who rally cars are far more well off than the ordinary joe-soap...as brian mentioned money talks....the way things are going with escorts I would not be surprised if somebody starts to remanufacture shells....nearly everything else is available for them new/ remanufactured....so those of us who own good rs cars or standard ones should hold onto them as prices are only gonna keep rising....a few people in ireland have said the bubble will burst for the escort scene & other rear wheel drive cars will take over....i dont think so as the cars are so easily to modify

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              • #37
                Originally posted by GP4 View Post
                Where does 'greed' come into it?? It's a simply case of demand massively outweighing supply. Nobody 'forced' you to want an RS2000 road car but you went out and bought one...therefore removing the opportunity for someone else to own and cherish it.
                How ridiculous can you get, as I said there are many many other period cars (RWD) out there that make equally as good a rally car but people use the Escort.

                At least if I buy an RS I know that it will never end up being removed from the market by converting it into a rally car, so that's one more saved.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by rwdrs View Post
                  How ridiculous can you get, as I said there are many many other period cars (RWD) out there that make equally as good a rally car but people use the Escort.

                  Well this is just getting silly with the name calling, simply because my opinion differs from yours...must be nice to be right all the time. You've already called me narrow-minded and greedy...now I'm ridiculous also. Never mind, I've been called a lot worse

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                  • #39
                    i think this needs a poll

                    do you think the owner of this car is ok to choose the fate of this car...


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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by topaz View Post
                      i think this needs a poll

                      do you think the owner of this car is ok to choose the fate of this car...
                      the owner has every right to decide its fate, some of use may not agree with it but thats life, as brian said money talks

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rwdrs View Post
                        These shells were not cars taken from the dealers and used for rallying these were extra shells specifically for the purpose

                        if ford hadnt of turn it in2 a rally car them an sure some1 else would of


                        ive got a very nice orginal mk1 mex and am thinkin of using it on daytime road rallys,i dont see it as a waste of a mk1 mex,its a escort doin what they do best

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by topaz View Post
                          i think this needs a poll

                          do you think the owner of this car is ok to choose the fate of this car...
                          won't make any difference will it.

                          BTW I'm not into calling people names but it just annoys me that the prices are sent spiraling because a few, take good cars off the roads just to wreck them, if these people have so much money why don't they buy a proper rally car that'll go much faster than a Mk1 or 2 ever will around a stage, like a Cossie Escort.

                          This car is particularly wasteful as it's only done 12K, there can only be a handful of these left.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Tim View Post
                            if ford hadnt of turn it in2 a rally car them an sure some1 else would of


                            ive got a very nice orginal mk1 mex and am thinkin of using it on daytime road rallys,i dont see it as a waste of a mk1 mex,its a escort doin what they do best
                            I don't know if it escaped your attention or not but Ford designed this as a road car, that's why nearly all the running gear and loads of panel work needs replacing to get the thing to handle at all.

                            The rallying was just a means to an end, i.e. sell road cars.

                            If you manage to write your Mex off and you don't consider that a waste then good luck to you, however I suspect that like most road rallies that I've seen like at Porlock hill etc, that the cars don't get chucked around properly and therefore don't get damaged, so I wouldn't call that rallying either.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by rwdrs View Post
                              won't make any difference will it.

                              BTW I'm not into calling people names but it just annoys me that the prices are sent spiraling because a few, take good cars off the roads just to wreck them, if these people have so much money why don't they buy a proper rally car that'll go much faster than a Mk1 or 2 ever will around a stage, like a Cossie Escort.

                              This car is particularly wasteful as it's only done 12K, there can only be a handful of these left.
                              but a well spec mk1/2 in the right hands will beat a top spec wrc car for 1/3 of the cost

                              Originally posted by rwdrs View Post
                              I don't know if it escaped your attention or not but Ford designed this as a road car, that's why nearly all the running gear and loads of panel work needs replacing to get the thing to handle at all.

                              The rallying was just a means to an end, i.e. sell road cars.

                              If you manage to write your Mex off and you don't consider that a waste then good luck to you, however I suspect that like most road rallies that I've seen like at Porlock hill etc, that the cars don't get chucked around properly and therefore don't get damaged, so I wouldn't call that rallying either.
                              not sure what goes on at portlock hill but daylight road rallys arent intented to cause damage to the cars but to test the cars and crew

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Tim View Post
                                but a well spec mk1/2 in the right hands will beat a top spec wrc car for 1/3 of the cost


                                not sure what goes on at portlock hill but daylight road rallys arent intented to cause damage to the cars but to test the cars and crew
                                point being that I can hardly ever remember seeing a driver really giving some around the stages, not like it used to be 20 odd years back as the cars and parts were more readily available and whilst no doubt it was a pain to replace panels etc, at least you could get them.

                                Which meant that most of the time it was far more exciting to watch.

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