i dont know if im right to say , going on what ive seen the lakes tour was a really bad turn out , every body in hotels no lakes tour spirit [ camping ] might have been good on the day, the first driving stages was the best in 4 years of going very fast loved every bit of it , and camping at brooke meadow there was a small number of us who camped together and had the crack and others who was there and never even mingled . ive had enough dont think im going again might even sell

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