Mk 1 RS2000 Grp 4 rally car - help with valuation for insurance

[Weave]

Hi all,
I am a somewhat infrequent visitor to this forum, but my recent pondering about the new worth of my car given my latest engine and transmission developments brought me here for some advice.

I have a ex-Tour of Britain RS2000 prepared originally my Haynes of Maidstone. It competed on the 1974 Tour. It is an AVO Type 49 shell.

Thats the history behind the vehicle.

I have had the car 4 years and during that time i have rebuilt it into Grp 4 spec and compete in the UK and Belguim in stage rally events.

It has the relevant HVIF paperwork for historic rallying (HRCR) together with current MSA logbook

Here is a picture of the car pretty much as it looks today.







Body
Gartrac shell including:
5 - link (short boxes)
Turrets
Diff tunnel
Full Gearbox tunnel
Bolt in Roll Cage (Safety Devices)
Steel Mexico/RS wings
Steel bonnet and boot lid
Rear Bulk Head Kit

Chassis
Ian Rix:
Sump Guard
World Cup X-Member
Bias Pedal box
Quaife Quick Rack
Grp 4 Ally Hubs

Suspension
Platform Adjustable Grp 4 front struts
Bilstein rear dampers
Multi-leaf rear leaf springs
Slipper kit
Double Width kit
Anti-dive kit
RS Anti Roll Bar
GRP 4 Top Mounts
Rose jointed 4 link bars and Panhard rod

Brakes
AP Monte Carlo front Calipers and 28mm discs with Ferodo DS2500
AP CP2577 rear caliper with built in mechanical handbrake mechanism

Axle
Gartrac Fully Floating with ZF Motorsport Diff

Engine
Connaught supplied Historic Spec Warrior/Holbay 2.0
Titan MK2 Dry Sump
Farndon Crank and Rods
Accralite Pistons
Tony Law 4-2-1 Full System

260bhp @7750 Rpm
186lb/ft @4750 Rpm

Gear Box
Brand new ZF complete synchro gearbox from Elite transmissions (yet to take delivery as their first batch is in production)
Gartrac Complete ZF Bell Housing Kit inc Hyd Clutch System

Ancillaries
Aeroquip fuel and oil lines
Gartrac Dry Sump Tank
Alloy Foam Filled Fuel Tank with Gartrac access panel and VDO fuel sender
Hi-Torque starter
Remote Oil Filter (Mocal)
Oil Cooler (Mocal)
Competition Clutch (Super Clutch)
Twin Facet Fuel Pumps

Interior
Usual stuff, but will mention
Corbeau Pro-Series seats x 2
6 point SRS Harnesses
4 Litre Lifeline Plumbed in Extinguisher
Peltor Intercom
Raft of Gauges (TIM)
Retro Trip
Hyd Handbrake
All original RS Door and Rear Quarter Cards, Headlining and Flocked Dash
AliMax Motorsport Nav Foot Rest, Battery Box, Fuel Pump Stand, Centre Console
Don Barrow Nav Lighting
FIA Roll Cage Padding

Thats bascially it.

The engine and gear box are the latest editions and i will need to contact Richard Egger and advise of the new value, trouble is thats a difficult one.

I would like to get an agreed value from them, so can you guys help at all with placing a figure on what it would be worth if the worst happens?

Thanks,
Richard

[TimGR]

Presumably you mean Grp 2.

I would say around £35k, perahps a bit more.

[Weave]

I have actually got the Car categorised as both Rs2000 and Rs1600 on the paperwork.

So if you mean in terms of category for historic rallying, it is in fact cat 2.

The car uses grp4 parts.

Thanks for the reply.

[richy c]

what about appendix j, regulation 4c category 2 for pre 75 cars with fuel injection unless using grp 4 spec rear set up without slipper springs but only without front twin coil overs?

[Weave]

what about appendix j, regulation 4c category 2 for pre 75 cars with fuel injection unless using grp 4 spec rear set up without slipper springs but only without front twin coil overs?

Indeed what about it?

Sorry Richy, that means nothing to me.

All I know is I have a car with historic paperwork, which means I can go and do historic rallys.

It says i am Cat 2.

I don't know what the implications of your post mean for me, would you be able to clarify please?

[Dave1800BDA]

Indeed what about it?

Sorry Richy, that means nothing to me.

All I know is I have a car with historic paperwork, which means I can go and do historic rallys.

It says i am Cat 2.

I don't know what the implications of your post mean for me, would you be able to clarify please?

richard, i wouldnt take any notice from richys reply, im sure its a wind up, unless proven otherwise

btw,car has a good spec, very nice

[paul andrews]

bit of history on the car a fantastic spec gotta be 50+ imo.

[Weave]

Blimey, I better get onto Richerd Egger soon then, she is only insured for 30k at present.

Any further bids lol?

[Tim]

id says 35-40k

[Weave]

I think i need to get the car finished and then request an assessor to come from Richard Egger and agree a value.

[richy c]

[mk1gaz]

If it's an original factory car from the Avon Tour of Britain and not just a log book , triggers broom etc etc then it's worth alot of money with a pinto and steel wheels back on it !!!!! Would be worth £25,000+ like that and then you could sell all the good bits or build something else with them .
P.S. You can't get 260bhp from 2 litres at 7750 rpm so i'd ring the engine builder and tell him he's dreaming , lol .

[Weave]

If it's an original factory car from the Avon Tour of Britain and not just a log book , triggers broom etc etc then it's worth alot of money with a pinto and steel wheels back on it !!!!! Would be worth £25,000+ like that and then you could sell all the good bits or build something else with them .
P.S. You can't get 260bhp from 2 litres at 7750 rpm so i'd ring the engine builder and tell him he's dreaming , lol .

You would have a job putting the floor, tunnel, turrets etc back since Gartrac have knifed it.

I go rallying mate, not just dreaming and talking shite about street cars.

As for 260bhp from 2.0 litres, guess that means all the BDA's out there running 240-250bhp are all rubbish too.

I remember you from Turbosport.

[mk1gaz]

I go rallying mate, not just dreaming and talking shite about street cars.

As for 260bhp from 2.0 litres, guess that means all the BDA's out there running 240-250bhp are all rubbish too.

Yep affraid so , all bullshit power readings and rally drivers love quoting them , lol .

[Weave]

If bullshit was music, you'd have a one man band.

You are dead to me - is there a block user facility on this site?