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    Hi everyone and thanks for taking time to read this epilogue !! lol
    ok this all began a few days ago ! i posted some pics of my RS2000 restoration in the basket case section , and a fellow member left some comments ! and the one thats got under mi skin is , you should have re shelled it ! would have been cheaper !! Now before i go on i have no ill feelings towards the member , everyone is entitled to there own opinion in my book ok ! so i sat and thought what does restoration mean ? if i save as much as the original car and we all know you need to cut out rust and replace floor pans, slam pannels etc but when all thats done we have saved that car and you feel great that you have acheived something and the cars still got its soul ? Now if you re shell like the comment said then you start putting all new parts on because its a new shell and what do you have ? someone elses car with your tags on !! is it me i dont know but restoration means to retain and repair as much as you possibley can , i even replied i would re shell if i could but shells are hens teeth ! but i just said that because i felt stupid and thought they knew more than me !! mi lord and members of the jury i retract that comment ! lol Anyway whos right ? thanks john
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  • #2
    hello
    the only time i think a re-shell is ok is when the car's shell have either been rolled and is bent so bad it would be dangerous to repair or when the shell has no real metal left to weld to. otherwise it's restore all the way.......
    sigpic escorts are blood ,sweat ,tears and welding burns.

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    • #3
      a hotly debated topic this one, personally resto as far as I'm concerned, a reshell and it isnt the same car, so as far as I'm concerned no longer an RS, I know the shells only another spare part etc etc and most of the rally cars have been reshelled but it's a personal thing of mine, when I go to shows and see a famous rally car, part of the draw is knowing that stood before you most of the great lump of metal was ounce thrown through the trees by a latter day driving god FEV 1H for example used to be kept in the same building I worked in and even as a spotty 17 yr old I would just go and stand in front of it and take it all in (was before ford refurbished it) it was still battle scar'd and had such an easily traceable history I knew it was the real thing, seeing some of the cars resurfacing now and looking at them, gorgeous recreations they are but there nothing more then that

      my Mk1 Mexico was seriously nasty when I bought it, BUT I bought it because A, it was definitley a real one, B, it came out of AVO lemans green, it would have been much easier and a LOT cheaper to reshell it but then the major lump of metal would never have even been to AVO and I'm clued up enough to have the knowledge to have made it indistuinguishable ! but I would have known, therefore I would have lost interest in the whole thing

      I ended up replacing lots and lots of panels so people will say a lot of the car never saw AVO, but all the bulkhead, and most of the car from the B pillars back is original and thats what it's about for me, saving another piece of Henry's heritage

      I personally wouldnt touch a reshelled RS, but saying all that I dont have a problem with it for other people (unless they are trying to fool people)

      it's just not for me

      phew, must be my longest post ever


      Cheers Glyn
      Cheers Glyn

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      • #4
        Hello John,
        I agree with your view that any one can reshell and stick the tags on it and call it an RS.Plenty of these around.
        A restoration job such as on my RS will take hundreds and hundreds of hours and economically make no sense but I enjoy all the grinding,cutting and welding as its light relief from all the other things I do in my life.

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        • #5
          My uncle was going to bid on the car you brought and looking at the pictures, the shell can be repaired so restoration it is for me.

          Cheers Jack

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          • #6
            Glyn

            nice one Glyn ! really thank you for the comments ! thought i was doing the wrong thing , its my first RS ive wanted one since i was 18 and im now 39 ! hunted for a white one for seven months and wanted it early so when i found a 1977 with 49k on the clock i was delighted , original engine aswel ! had the head off and its mint so belive the miles to be true !! its been sat in a garage 14 years , and the bloke who had it divorced his wfe , so she wheeled it out of the garage and left it for four years until the divorce was settled and she got her dough lol ! but the weather then got in hence the damage !! it will be mint in twelve months . thanks again john

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            • #7
              jimmer

              same here jimmer ! work two jobs pal 13 hours a day , got three kids two jack russells and a wife who likes diamonds lol so this car takes me to a better place where mortgages and all that crap are lost in my mind , shut the garage door and im happy as i can be .

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              • #8
                Just keep going. You have started and if you went to reshell it, How long will it take you to find a good shell. If you could find one.

                Hope this helps...





                Andy
                Andy

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                • #9
                  whilst there's nothing to stop people reshelling a car, if the authorities ever find out you're for a uncomfortable ride, as only a proper "service shell" should ever be used for such a purpose as the "shell" you use is actually another car with a permanently stamped in VIN number and any effort to remove or modify this VIN is called "fraud" as is trying to pass the car off as "the vehicle in question"

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                  • #10
                    i also said restore but if calsberg done oneand i could buy a brand new shell theyre would be no choice to make.i dont agree surely a new shell must be better than a car thats been welded up

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                    • #11
                      Thanks

                      thanks again lads for all your comments ! its been doin mi head in since sunday . kept thinkin am i doin the right thing , and it will cost loads more to do a proper job but when its done its probably 90% the same car if its reshelled then ist probably 90% someone elses .

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                      • #12
                        John, there's an MK2 2K parked in my other half's parents garage, been sat there for the last 5 years, could realistically do with a reshell....



                        but that's never going to happen while it's still in our posession. Can't afford to get the work done on it at the moment, but it'll sit there until I can. It will never be a showpiece, but as long as I'm happy with it and the car still has it's 'heartbeat' then it will live on.
                        Last edited by macjam; 09-01-2008, 01:03.
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                        • #13
                          macjam

                          i like them mint pal but show piece dont intrest me , polished underneath and all that , its nice to win prizez but your to scared to drive it ! just ends up living on a trailer !! no no no drive this one of mine when its done whenever i can as long as its not raining lol !!

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                          • #14
                            Had to put reshell just so I was not follow the other sheep LOL

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                            • #15
                              Bryan

                              i knew you would vote reshell ! just to be different and rock our boat lol

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