STOLEN Red flat front RS2000 XEM636W, Sheffield 20/03/15

[JJM]

Well it was apparently left outside a workshop waiting to have some work done (even tho the many eBay ads state it needed none and had No welding done) he'd had it a couple of months even tho it was on eBay at least 3 times in that time which he failed to say. Then shows one pic of the recovered car which many say isn't or was a pic before it was stolen. Then starts up a fund to rebuild it because he had no insurance? For many people it just doesn't add up as well as apparently offering a reward why not use that to rebuild it.

[alancdavis]

Talk about Judge, Jury and f**kin' executioner! You are all piecing together rumour, suspicion from the ever reliable Faceache and heresay as fact to support your theories! Until you have FACTS or the guy speaks up for himself - drop the veiled accusations, its below you!

Facts are this car was up for sale don't know how many times prior to the disaperence,,, The car was also not as the description of being the mint car depicting it to be ,it was a 4door conversion not carried out to a particular good standard.

Car was also for sale in Shefield at the time of the theft, and apparently left outdside a repair shop when stolen so hardly the loved car it was said to be if up for sale

The recovery is shrouded in mystery and no details are forth coming except the reward was more than the sale asking price

To open a begging bowl can also be considered as been a bit cheeky

As for the photo of the recovered car ,,,,well is it the same car ??

As said these are the facts the case is being judged on and alas all the evidence is not so good to prove the claim.

Time will tell as to the true story .

[Andyc]

Whats left of it has been found

Posted on Facebook by Mike Haywood

Thank you everyone for your help in regards to looking for my car.

I couldn't be more grateful to the tens of thousands of people that shared it.

Thank you to the newspapers and radio stations that featured it. Most importantly, thank you to the Sheffield and classic car communities that went out in person to search through day and night.

I have had the shell of the car returned to me. It has been stripped to the bare basics. I still see this as a great result as I didn't think I'd get anything back.

The police have several very strong leads that they're following up. It'll be only a matter of time before the people responsible will be punished.

There are still around £15,000 of parts out there. If you know of anything then please get in touch at 07899000233

I darest bet that that is not the same car that front panel is a new from the shop panel

[S17YDE JNR]

The only thing I find strange is he said he couldn't afford the insurance for it yet he was offering a £10k reward. Surely if he has that much to give out for a reward he could insure it

[morcheen]

The only thing I find strange is he said he couldn't afford the insurance for it yet he was offering a £10k reward. Surely if he has that much to give out for a reward he could insure it

so he must have 10k to go towards re-building the car ? it's an odd one ?

[robrs2]

Same car?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MK2-Ford-Escort-RS2000-Rare-unmarked-police-car-mint-example-/281351767376?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=B2pbEpYAJXbPg1CKGvMEqKqZX50%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

[CHELT RS]

Had roll tops then

[CHELT RS]

Had roll tops then

Bu**er. Wrong thread. It's been a long day.

[Haywood]

I have been notified by several people about the progression of this thread since I last posted but haven't had time to yet check it out.

Yes, It's Mike Haywood the owner again. I'd like to answer some of the questions and blatantly ignorant statements just for the sake of self contempt.

There's a lot I can't say right now as it may very well affect the case.

What is it with people on here FFS this poor guy has had his car stolen lets help him get it back and not pass judgment on value

utter b astards! WHY? Just WHY

Thank you. Some of the few people on here that actually has taken a step back to be respectful and thoughtful. It means a lot to me.

Looks like it was being stripped to bare shell or possible repaint, probably to be sold on as a unfinished project

It had been sprayed black shortly before I arrived at the scene to try cover fingerprints. The vinyl roof has been stripped off but none of the paint has been.

Newark auto jumble on 12th April might be worth a look to see if any parts turn up for sale there

Thank you. If you could all keep your eyes out at these kind of events - that'd be fantastic. I assume the thief has already sold off the parts but they're not exactly Honda Civic parts so it's definitely worth being aware of what's still missing.

Great result there I suppose - better than getting nothing at all back.

Are there any details of where the shell was recovered from? What region?

Although it's upsetting - You're right. So many people get no closure and I at least know what has happened. I can't yet go into detail but I can confirm that it was found in the Sheffield area.

Id like to know how it was found also.

We need to learn about how every car is stolen and just as importantly how they are found and what the end result is.
I've messaged the owner Mike on face book and posted on his thread a few days ago, no reply from him.

Because of how much publicity it has had, I probably didn't get a chance to read your message. I have had several hundred missed texts, Facebook messages and calls over the past few weeks. Don't take it personally I'll share everything when possible.

But why no paint on front panel or wings ? Thieves wouldn't **** about like that , nick it strip it sell bits on or... Burn it out after a good time ??

Is that pic from when it was been rebuilt ??

This photo was taken when it was being loaded onto the recovery truck to take it to police forensics within an hour of it being found.

Looks like satin black, could be to hide its colour while being stripped.

The paint was still wet when I recovered the vehicle. It was for masking fingerprints.

Looks like a picture pre rebuild rather than now
picture in carpark looks not quite right either looks like a portrait

What do you mean? It wasn't drawn on Microsoft Paint haha. I'm in the film industry and hired a friend who is a professional car photographer. He bumps up the sharpness and does long exposures to give that lifelike look.

Talk about Judge, Jury and f**kin' executioner! You are all piecing together rumour, suspicion from the ever reliable Faceache and heresay as fact to support your theories! Until you have FACTS or the guy speaks up for himself - drop the veiled accusations, its below you!

Thank you. Near all of what people are saying is he said she said and I believe that is awfully pathetic for a group of men average age is probably late 40s. I'm only 21 years old and I wouldn't be half this gossipy or accusing of someone else in the same situation.

Well it was apparently left outside a workshop waiting to have some work done (even tho the many eBay ads state it needed none and had No welding done) he'd had it a couple of months even tho it was on eBay at least 3 times in that time which he failed to say. Then shows one pic of the recovered car which many say isn't or was a pic before it was stolen. Then starts up a fund to rebuild it because he had no insurance? For many people it just doesn't add up as well as apparently offering a reward why not use that to rebuild it.

I love your bitterness and snobbiness. No really, I do. You have given me a good smile during a stressful and upsetting situation.

1. It was suggested to me that some small work to be done to a bracket.

2. I have never denied the intention of selling it at one point. I bought the car on 1st Feb and when I realised how good condition it was in and that it wasn't the kind of car that can be driven as an everyday (I am a freelance camera operator & video editor and have to travel all over the country). It was a very pretty car but unfortunately was not practical for me. I listed it on eBay once for less than 24 hours. The main stipulation that people questioned me on was that they didn't feel confident in that the history of the car wasn't dense. I removed the car from eBay and decided to pursue finding out more about the car.

3. I contacted several of the previous owners and applied for a V888 form and built together a fantastic folder full of information. It became a passion that I spent endless hours on - Falling asleep on piles of printouts was a regular occurrence.

During the ownership of XEM 636W, maybe 5 or 6 other listings of it came on eBay at £5000 all from reputable accounts. I rang up each of the listings and they all said that their eBay accounts had been hacked and that the hackers had put up the listing and in the description it listed a link for people to transfer deposits to. By the time that the eBay account owners had caught on - The hackers had managed to get away with enough scams for it to be worth doing it on a regular basis.

I don't know why my car was targeted more than others for this but I had nothing to do with it.

4. Yet again, the comment on the timeframe of when the photo was taken of the car stripped down - I can confirm that it was 100% taken after the car was stolen.

Facts are this car was up for sale don't know how many times prior to the disaperence,,, The car was also not as the description of being the mint car depicting it to be ,it was a 4door conversion not carried out to a particular good standard.

Car was also for sale in Shefield at the time of the theft, and apparently left outdside a repair shop when stolen so hardly the loved car it was said to be if up for sale

The recovery is shrouded in mystery and no details are forth coming except the reward was more than the sale asking price

To open a begging bowl can also be considered as been a bit cheeky

As for the photo of the recovered car ,,,,well is it the same car ??

As said these are the facts the case is being judged on and alas all the evidence is not so good to prove the claim.

Time will tell as to the true story .

Alan, as politely as possible for the sake of the other users of this forum - You really sound like a walking joke. I don't know if it's due to your hairline or your wife not putting out but you have been bitter about my car since day one. The car was not left outside a repair shop. The 4 door reference is yet another speculation that we may now never know. I have been told by numerous people that the shell is 1977, that the car was originally 4 door and that it was made for Australian export but decided that it liked Liverpool too much and hanged around by the seaside. Spreading rumours without evidence doesn't make you wise.

It's in the middle of a very serious case. It's not one silly billy who took an opportunity as it first looked like but a lot more than that. Until there are charges dealt, I don't feel comfortable with fully detailing information in case it affects it. I'm sure you can sit patiently.

The only thing I find strange is he said he couldn't afford the insurance for it yet he was offering a £10k reward. Surely if he has that much to give out for a reward he could insure it

so he must have 10k to go towards re-building the car ? it's an odd one ?

The insurance wasn't for the fact that I couldn't afford it. It was for the fact that it was kept behind several gates and walls with a groundskeeper and less than 10 people knowing exactly where it was kept. I was also lead to believe that the insurance of the storage facility would cover any loss or damages to its contents. It's actually now only for vehicles that are registered under the leaseholders name.

I wasn't going to pay the 10k myself. My best friend whose storage I was using has taken responsibility and said as soon as it was stolen that if it doesn't turn up that he'll make me whole. The way he saw it was that he'll be out of pocket either way and that he'd rather pay 10k to get the car back to me in whatever state it's in to get closure.

Thank you for reading. If you have any questions then message me on Facebook or give me a phone call. I'm more likely to see/hear on there and will eventually address every message when it's possible.

I have put in hundreds of hours into hunting down who is responsible and have found answers. The police are dealing with the people involved now. When there is an update, I will let you guys know.

I hope the next time I come on these forums that the average mood is a bit more cheery! There seems to be a rather grouchy tone. I hope to bring nothing but happiness - Despite everything, even to you Mr. Davis.

[alancdavis]

Mike ,, Dont be an arse by resorting to personal insults about me and my wife , to do this is a sign of low interlect.

It is not just on this forum, but many more forums who are of the opinion be it true or not that all the facts in this case do not add up.

People have looked at this car prior to your ownership and confirmed it is not the spec it was said to be and the original mint condition it was said to be.

The main problem with your case is that it has come along when so many other cars are also going missing and as such people ask questions based on the history of the car.

There is no refrence to you doing any thing wrong but as said in light of recent events it does not look good for you and your begging bowl

[Haywood]

Mike ,, Dont be an arse by resorting to personal insults about me and my wife , to do this is a sign of low interlect.

It is not just on this forum, but many more forums who are of the opinion be it true or not that all the facts in this case do not add up.

People have looked at this car prior to your ownership and confirmed it is not the spec it was said to be and the original mint condition it was said to be.

The main problem with your case is that it has come along when so many other cars are also going missing and as such people ask questions based on the history of the car.

There is no refrence to you doing any thing wrong but as said in light of recent events it does not look good for you and your begging bowl

The irony of you repeatedly slagging off myself and the car in numerous threads in hilarious.

There's nothing that doesn't add up as far as I'm aware. Just things that can't yet be shared for legal reasons. It will be fully revealed when I can do so.

That's the complete opposite of what the case was Alan. The response from everyone was that it was in fact too good which is why people were concerned about the history as it was better than they imagined. It was certainly not that it wasn't as in good condition as they had previously thought. As I stated in my previous post - It's all hearsay.

I don't have a begging bowl Alan. I have a dozen or more people message me since the shell has been found saying that they want to donate parts or money and was told by a few to put a page together to allow them to do so. If you read my comments on the situation - I take responsibility in saying that I'm not trying to push the blame of the theft or say woe is me, I deserve special treatment.

I think you need to move on from this car as you quite clearly have an underlying problem with it that has been going on for a long time. You have no reasoning to take out your frustration on me. Anyone with a balanced view can see that you have been vile towards me and other than a couple quips, I have taken your unnecessary comments in good light.

Hope you enjoy your Easter!

[alancdavis]

Mike ,, You have your opinions and myself and a LOT of others have theirs with regard to this.

If and when you are able then publish the facts and clear any doubts for once and all then do so.
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And by the way I have not made any VILE comments about you where you have posted insults of a personal nature regarding my self and my wife

I will not get into a slaging match with you so lets leave it at that.

PS Easter was last week !

[Gordy]

Mike
Best of luck in getting these criminals sorted and another route our pride and joys are getting stolen through shut down. Glad the bones of the car got back to you and hope you choose to start to rebuild it and maybe come and join the scene and see the REAL people in it. Like wise to the other great people from the scene that have offered parts or assistance please ask even if its just a nut or bolt.
Cheers Gordy

[Haywood]

Mike
Best of luck in getting these criminals sorted and another route our pride and joys are getting stolen through shut down. Glad the bones of the car got back to you and hope you choose to start to rebuild it and maybe come and join the scene and see the REAL people in it. Like wise to the other great people from the scene that have offered parts or assistance please ask even if its just a nut or bolt.
Cheers Gordy

Thanks a lot Gordy. I appreciate your kind words.

I'd love to come and join the scene and get more involved. I'm working out what's possible right now - taking it as it comes. Either way wether with XEM 636W or as a regular Joe, I'd really enjoy coming along in person.

I got the shell back from the forensics team today. When I first saw it in the dark when I first recovered it, it looked like it had been sprayed black. I believed there was no purpose other than to cover prints. I also believed the paint was still wet as it rubbed off on the coat of the man who was moving it for the police.

When I went down there today I touched the 'paint' and realised that it wipes clean off. The paintwork hasn't been damaged at all by the looks of it.

Interestingly the shell is entirely black other than the boot and bonnet (still looks identical to before it was stolen) and on various parts it has been sprayed yellow in the same cleanable paint to make it look like it's a project car that needs work doing. I assume this was for transporting it around after it had been stripped so that it didn't look like it had been a working car for a long time and wouldn't draw attention.

[Stevo21]

you got any more pictures of the nick they left the car in?