Brexit

[alancdavis]

No problem s in cyprus😃

[l j shaw]

Cyprus ....the last divided Capitol ...not really in the EU as both sides have been told to resolve the issue before either can fully join.

[alancdavis]

Locals can't pass from north to south bet tourist trips are not a problem

[rwdrs]

Does the EU really think they have the upper hand??
Airbus, go find your wings else where.
Mini, can't relocate because the deal struck was it had to be made in the UK,

I don't know whether you'd noticed or not but Airbus is owned mainly by the French & German governments, they have under capacity at some factories…

Mini is owned by BMW, if push comes to shove they will do what Ford did ages ago and end vehicle manufacture in the UK, do remind me where's the "home of the Transit" these days? I'll give you a hint it's no longer next to the Solent.

I don't if you also noticed Tata (you know that lot that wanted to get rid of or close down their steelworks in the UK), have been busy building JaguarLR car plants in China, Brazil etc.

NATO.
Commonwealth trade- we've already had interest regarding trade deals from most countries, New Zealand's even offered to loan us their trade politicians.
German car sales to the UK, one million plus.
London, now able to be a financial capital of the world not just Europe.

German cars to get more expensive, UK produced vehicles can't be exported to the EU unless membership of EFTA = freedom of movement accepted.
The bankers in Frankfurt are rubbing their hands.

Roll Royce, his many engines do you need Airbus?

Heard of Pratt & Wittney?

New world wines are just as nice and cheaper than French.
French, Italian, Spanish made cars/vans are also sold he in large quantities.

We are a big market for the manufacturing industry of Europe, it's in their interest to do the right deal for the UK, it's going to take time and effort but as with any divorce the world always feels brighter afterwards, just ask any divorcee .

[l j shaw]

The vote out of the EU got more than the vote in by 1.2 million plus ...lets just get on with it .

[l j shaw]

Locals can't pass from north to south bet tourist trips are not a problem

Locals can pass as easily as anyone else .....that still doesn't mean they are happy about it

[Miniliteman]

Just seen the GBP lost again towards the Euro.
Not long ago 1 GBP was 1.38 Euro.
Now it's 1 GBP is 1.18 Euro.
Great news for us EU-people if we want stuff from the UK or take a holiday there but how does it affect the UK in general?
Export will be up until custom-rules apply after the Brexit is official but after that???

[rwdrs]

Just seen the GBP lost again towards the Euro.
Not long ago 1 GBP was 1.38 Euro.
Now it's 1 GBP is 1.18 Euro.
Great news for us EU-people if we want stuff from the UK or take a holiday there but how does it affect the UK in general?

Gonna be a cheap holiday this year

Export will be up until custom-rules apply after the Brexit is official but after that???

Yep, hopefully by the time it sets in that money is being pulled out of the UK economy as a direct result of this referendum and new investment delayed or cancelled and it dawns on people what any new deal with the EU entails, hopefully it'll be obvious to the last man that invoking Article 50 shouldn't happen.
This is similar to Scotland leaving the union, it'll take ages to unpick all of the agreements and neither party will be better off.

[rwdrs]

I really don't think or hope this will happen. It is propaganda put out by a very nasty, very small but very poisonous section of our society.

The next PM Theresa May and Philip Hammond spring to mind.

You also notice the rats leaving the sinking ship, Bo-Jo, Farage and Cameron being forced to go…
Shame too many people fell for the bogus figures, lies and hatred spread by people like Paul Nattal's partty friends…

[rsdc1]

I really hope there is not a second referendum.

Our NHS/Roads/Police/Local Government are a ****ing shambles up here.

I wish they would concentrate on making the country better up here rather than chase a ****ing agenda,where if something is good it's is because of what they have done and anything that goes wrong it is westminsters fault.

My worst nightmare is another Scottish referendum and Scotland voting YES and gaining membership of the EU. England is out and therefore we would have almost Cold War passport control/ checkpoints on the M74/A1/A7 and on the railways at Carlisle and Berwick as there would be freedom of travel between Scotland and the EU and preventing travel into England through the back door via Europe.

I don't normally get involved in shit like this, but concentrate on what your were voted into do, rather than a side agenda that gets you on the TV and media every night of the week and eats up shit loads of public cash and time that could be better spent on the countries infrastructure.

Spot on Darren

[rsdc1]

I don't know whether you'd noticed or not but Airbus is owned mainly by the French & German governments, they have under capacity at some factories…

Mini is owned by BMW, if push comes to shove they will do what Ford did ages ago and end vehicle manufacture in the UK, do remind me where's the "home of the Transit" these days? I'll give you a hint it's no longer next to the Solent.

I don't if you also noticed Tata (you know that lot that wanted to get rid of or close down their steelworks in the UK), have been busy building JaguarLR car plants in China, Brazil etc.

I don't think the referendum had anything to do with this. That was always on the cards possibly now if they go we can bring back BL and make our own cars/lorries/tractors etc again. Stop buying foreign and make the best of what we have, like it or not it's the way it is

[rwdrs]

I don't think the referendum had anything to do with this. That was always on the cards possibly now if they go we can bring back BL and make our own cars/lorries/tractors etc again. Stop buying foreign and make the best of what we have, like it or not it's the way it is

There are, of course, a couple of problems with this outlook. Firstly to be able to trade with the EU, the UK will have to accept frredom of movement or it hasn't been worth it. If no freedom of movement then there will only be limited access to the free trade area. I don't know if you can remember BL, but it was a disaster.
Management was a nightmare, even before BLMC was formed you had cars like the mini being sold for a loss or Sir William Lyons betting with one of the engineers that they couldn't design a suspension setup for the upcoming XJ model. The engineer designed the suspension over the weekend and it stayed on all jags right through to the XK/XJ8 a heavy antiquated rubbish system.
Ford had to strip and rebuild Browns lane etc and after buying Jaguar the execs nearly expired on the spot when seeing the pre WW2 paint shop and carousel system. Without Ford and now Tata, JLR would be long dead and buried.
If you think turning inwards and frightening off inward investment into the UK is the way to go, you are mistaken. The chief proponents of said strategy have done one and left the serious politicians to get on with clearing up the mess they've left behind…

[l j shaw]

The only problem we have got ...is people in sighting the doom and gloom factor, and the ..we are better of in ...the business leaders are saying its talking us into a resession ...

Who now own most the UK car manufacturers etc, then they had eyes on the banking system etc etc as they also say these companies are and where moving jobs out the UK long before the vote, and then cherry picking the top management ...it's only now that the in vote are high lighting this ....the more you listen to the EU commission the more you see an increase in the dictatorship.

Maybe we was the first country that started to look outwards more than inwards to the EU system ...

[flyingpilot]

It does seem doom and gloom but its the poor govenments over the years thats coming out now.
On the currency note, the dollar is getting stronger and sceptics suggesting we will see 1.16 by the winter and may be in the future like for like .

It all seems to be a total f**k up, where dammed if we do and where dammed if we don't, I, for once am lost for words.

[plentysideways]

There are, of course, a couple of problems with this outlook. Firstly to be able to trade with the EU, the UK will have to accept frredom of movement or it hasn't been worth it. If no freedom of movement then there will only be limited access to the free trade area.

Nowhere is it written that the UK will have to accept freedom of movement. No deal has been negotiated yet, so we don't "have to" accept a damn thing if we don't want to.
I just hope that whoever is negotiating on behalf of the UK has a little bit more belief in Britain than those who voted to remain in. Don't forget, we (allegedly) manufacture very little nowadays, ie we import most things which also makes us a very important buyer/market/partner.
To put it another way the UK is the biggest foreign market german car makers have. Do you really think that the heads of BMW,VW, AUDI etc will let Frau Merkel make it too difficult for the UK to buy german cars on reasonable terms?
We will be in the buying seats in these negotiations, not the selling ones and that will give us the upper hand.