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Originally posted by SRS Motorsport Models View PostUnbelievable!!
Maggie was our GREATEST prime minister
She sorted the Unions who were tryingto run the country led my the loony labour
She sorted the Argues
If she was about today the immigration would not be a problem
All the layabouts wouldnt get away with it
There is TWO PEOPLE that runined our country and that is BLAIR and BROWN and it will NEVER recover!!!!!!!
Originally posted by RSMEXICO View PostThatcher (love her, or hate her) was a brutal, but much needed Revolutionary. .! Scargill et al (as an example), would of had you all under the 'Iron Fist of Communism' if he had, had his way (Soviet funded as I recall along with Red Robbo etc). The country needed a titanium willed individual to institute the necessary social and economic antidotes; without which the human cost would have been much greater. . .
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Originally posted by Frosticles View Post
Poor Mr Robinson. Undeserved flak.
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Originally posted by RSMEXICO View PostUndeserved, hmmmmm.....! As much as he was a Commie, I do think the likes of him (helping to make such utter kak motors through his Millitancy and walkouts), helped to make Ford (who wer'nt without their problems of course) the best car manufacturer Britain has ever produced. Thatcher would have agreed!!
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I was born and bred in a mining community, my father worked at the same mine all his working life, I stood by my mining mates during the miners strike and I have seen the changes made to the area during and since her tenure as Prime Minister.
As previously stated, Labour closed more pits than Thatcher. Nationalised industry was a total joke and to prove this, my (one surviving) local mine, Kellingley which had a 2400 workforce now gets the same output with about 400 men and my old place of work, Ferrybridge Power Station has similar stats. They are both now run by the private sector, which says it all ... Nationalised industry as it was run the the 70s and 80s was not sustainable and it had to change - and it did!
You know what? I'd have someone like her running the country today in a heartbeat, rather than the kind of party leaders we have now (posh schoolboys!). You may not agree with all of her policies but at least she made the point and stuck to it. This lot NEVER answer a question - they just dodge them.
As for her killing the manufacturing base of the country... You mean all the unions taking the workforce on strike every five minutes had nothing to do with that? Add to that, the quality of British goods was becoming a joke and nobody actually wanted it... Not even the British!
I agree, she was certainly wrong on some things but nothing like as much as people are saying. The poll tax is always one which gets people going but I always though it was probably the fairest way to do it! Everyone should pay their way and the reason we are in the mire now is that there are too many scroungers in the country - What was wrong with everyone in a house paying their share - the more in the house, the more you pay, it sounds fair to me!
Thatcher was certainly divisive but she was a great leader who we should respect for her strengths. Probably in the future when all the propaganda is dead, we will!
Maggie Thatcher - R.I.P.
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Originally posted by Smudger View PostI was born and bred in a mining community, my father worked at the same mine all his working life, I stood by my mining mates during the miners strike and I have seen the changes made to the area during and since her tenure as Prime Minister.
As previously stated, Labour closed more pits than Thatcher. Nationalised industry was a total joke and to prove this, my (one surviving) local mine, Kellingley which had a 2400 workforce now gets the same output with about 400 men and my old place of work, Ferrybridge Power Station has similar stats. They are both now run by the private sector, which says it all ... Nationalised industry as it was run the the 70s and 80s was not sustainable and it had to change - and it did!
You know what? I'd have someone like her running the country today in a heartbeat, rather than the kind of party leaders we have now (posh schoolboys!). You may not agree with all of her policies but at least she made the point and stuck to it. This lot NEVER answer a question - they just dodge them.
As for her killing the manufacturing base of the country... You mean all the unions taking the workforce on strike every five minutes had nothing to do with that? Add to that, the quality of British goods was becoming a joke and nobody actually wanted it... Not even the British!
I agree, she was certainly wrong on some things but nothing like as much as people are saying. The poll tax is always one which gets people going but I always though it was probably the fairest way to do it! Everyone should pay their way and the reason we are in the mire now is that there are too many scroungers in the country - What was wrong with everyone in a house paying their share - the more in the house, the more you pay, it sounds fair to me!
Thatcher was certainly divisive but she was a great leader who we should respect for her strengths. Probably in the future when all the propaganda is dead, we will!
Maggie Thatcher - R.I.P.
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Originally posted by richie View PostAt last some sensible comments. To hear some people talk Thatcher was to blame for everything.Its nice to hear sense from someone from the mining community too.
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Originally posted by Smudger View PostI was born and bred in a mining community, my father worked at the same mine all his working life, I stood by my mining mates during the miners strike and I have seen the changes made to the area during and since her tenure as Prime Minister.
As previously stated, Labour closed more pits than Thatcher. Nationalised industry was a total joke and to prove this, my (one surviving) local mine, Kellingley which had a 2400 workforce now gets the same output with about 400 men and my old place of work, Ferrybridge Power Station has similar stats. They are both now run by the private sector, which says it all ... Nationalised industry as it was run the the 70s and 80s was not sustainable and it had to change - and it did!
You know what? I'd have someone like her running the country today in a heartbeat, rather than the kind of party leaders we have now (posh schoolboys!). You may not agree with all of her policies but at least she made the point and stuck to it. This lot NEVER answer a question - they just dodge them.
As for her killing the manufacturing base of the country... You mean all the unions taking the workforce on strike every five minutes had nothing to do with that? Add to that, the quality of British goods was becoming a joke and nobody actually wanted it... Not even the British!
I agree, she was certainly wrong on some things but nothing like as much as people are saying. The poll tax is always one which gets people going but I always though it was probably the fairest way to do it! Everyone should pay their way and the reason we are in the mire now is that there are too many scroungers in the country - What was wrong with everyone in a house paying their share - the more in the house, the more you pay, it sounds fair to me!
Thatcher was certainly divisive but she was a great leader who we should respect for her strengths. Probably in the future when all the propaganda is dead, we will!
Maggie Thatcher - R.I.P.
Originally posted by Moose View Post2nd that and biggest disappointment I see here is celebrations on her passing personally I think its f***ing disgusting. We all have families and if somebody was dancing cheering etc on our mothers death I'm quite sure we'd all give them a right seeing to. Whatever your thoughts are on her think of her family during the mourning process!!!
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I was born and bred in a mining community, my father worked at the same mine all his working life, I stood by my mining mates during the miners strike and I have seen the changes made to the area during and since her tenure as Prime Minister."Quote"
Well said Smudger,I was born & bred in Liverpool & voted Torie I didn't agree with Labours Commie policies & the strangle hold the Unions had on the country.The Liverpool dockers were their own worst enemies,striking at the drop of a hat,so the major export/import companies boycotted the port & went to Southampton instead.The Ford workers were no better.
The Liverpool Riots were localised around Toxteth which is a 90% ethnic community & they wanted a 'No Go Area' for the police!!! They were all lazy dope smokers,that ransacked Kwik Save,Fothergills Cycles & Swaibanks furniture.So why do people say Thatcher ruined Liverpool ?
Us scousers didn't need her help to achieve that.
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As I've said on the many debates on the net regarding the pit closures. It is not what she did, but how she went about it and then how the communities were left for YEARS after the closures with next to sod all help. Barnsley was still trying to recover from the closures at the turn of the century! Not good enough. That's why I and many other hate her and her cabinet at the time. That along with the Hillsborough cover up that she WILL have known about mark my words. She order the sinking on the Belgrano that was out of the zone that in itself is a war crime - if it was done to one of ours there would be hell to pay! Giving the thumbs up to the death of those sailors is just like us giving the thumbs up to her going.
Tramp the soil down well tomorrow.
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Originally posted by RSMEXICO View PostUndeserved, hmmmmm.....! As much as he was a Commie, I do think the likes of him (helping to make such utter kak motors through his Millitancy and walkouts), helped to make Ford (who wer'nt without their problems of course) the best car manufacturer Britain has ever produced. Thatcher would have agreed!!
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