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  • #16
    ANSWER....Move to Australia...its warm, sunny, and they dont let any tom dick and harry in.....and the rs world is growing at a good rate of knots....but bring your Rs's with you.....
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    • #17
      I'm not sure the customer service element is down at just Ford. I run VW's for daily's and they are just the same there. It's like they either don't want to sell you one or can't be bothered servicing them or dealing with warrenty issue's.

      In fact, I ended up taking my T5 to a independant, great service and realistic cost's.

      I simply think we outpriced ourselves in this country and are not prepaired to adapt the economic climate. Harder still when the like's of Chinese production lines are churning out cheap parts and Korean manufacturers are actually making viable other options.
      My co-driver works for GM, GM europe have not turned a profit for 17 years apparently!! but the UK is holding up the rest of them as the UK is doing well (must be the vans!!)

      Pride before the fall and all that.

      I hope they can resolve the Transit factory, a great british loss in my mind but there needs to be comprimise from the manufacturer in product cost and production cost. Maybe source the all parts abroad and build here, much the same as Nissan and Toyota? Maybe they do that already?

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      • #18
        and it gets worse.................

        25 October 2012 Last updated at 12:06


        Ford 'to cut jobs' at two factories


        The Southampton factory will close next summer, sources say
        Car maker Ford is to close two plants with the loss of at least 1,300 jobs, the BBC understands.
        Its Southampton Transit van factory and the stamping plant at Dagenham, Essex, will shut, with union sources saying the job losses could reach 1,500.
        Reports suggest the closures will happen next summer.
        However, some new posts will be created at the Dagenham engine plant which will build Ford's new Panther engine.


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        • #19
          Originally posted by Mr. Escort View Post
          ANSWER....Move to Australia...its warm, sunny, and they dont let any tom dick and harry in.....and the rs world is growing at a good rate of knots....but bring your Rs's with you.....
          I'll be bringing mine!!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mr. Escort View Post
            ANSWER....Move to Australia...its warm, sunny, and they dont let any tom dick and harry in.....and the rs world is growing at a good rate of knots....but bring your Rs's with you.....


            Not any more, you've opened the flood gates and your on a downward spiral.................

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            • #21
              Originally posted by driverace View Post
              Why not do what the Germans do and bring the price of the Transit vans down ,I just got 8K off a new Merc car
              Ford of Europe lost one billion in the last year, I don't think cuttting even more money off (like the french are doing) backed up by the government (contrary to EU law) is going to work.

              Maybe Mercedes can afford to knock money off their overpriced wares (usually by squeezing their suppliers) but Ford are ending the WRC program and closing factories, not holding out their hands to the national govts.

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              • #22
                It's ok today because the recession is over.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by turbospud View Post
                  is it not more to do with the transit being expensive rubbish,vauxhall plant increased its workforce recently to meet demand for the vivaro
                  I would doubt that as it's just won van of the year again

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Mogsmex View Post
                    I would doubt that as it's just won van of the year again

                    D1ck
                    lol,no point calling me a dick when im just pointing out the obvious,journalists who vote for voty dont buy them,ford have been resting on their laurels with the transit for too long,ruinously expensive to run its not surprising fleet sales have gone elsewhere.
                    it doesnt help sales when the likes of BT shift to other manufactures,they had thousands of them,not anymore though

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by turbospud View Post
                      lol,no point calling me a dick when im just pointing out the obvious,journalists who vote for voty dont buy them,ford have been resting on their laurels with the transit for too long,ruinously expensive to run its not surprising fleet sales have gone elsewhere.
                      it doesnt help sales when the likes of BT shift to other manufactures,they had thousands of them,not anymore though
                      Ford also have conceeded defeat to Mercedes' Sprinter in many a category too. In Germany, Daimler had only a small share of the van market until about 15 years ago and sold virtuallly nothing elsewhere, the real rival (in Germany) was VW, but now Germany is flooded with Sprinters and they're all over europe's roads too!

                      Ford have made a rod for their own back in many ways with curious/poor model policy, the new Focus isn't available as a 3-door (even in ST guise), for instance, and they make half-baked attempts at "halo" model cars (e.g. the threatened/promised RS). Other car companies are going bananas, Audi, BMW, Mercedes etc are turning out incredibly desirable mass market products, and making money to boot.

                      Clearly the product planners and accountants have misjudged their market, couple that to over capacity and a worldwide recession and you can see why Ford are currently looking pretty sick.

                      A great idea would be for Jaguar-Land Rover to take over the Southampton plant for production of new models like the F-Type or the Evoque.
                      I think, Ford are making a mistake by ending vehicle production in the UK, what with the questionable value-for-money of the current models and resentment that will be created by factory closures, they could be killing off demand in one of their most important markets when they need it most...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RUDDY View Post
                        Well I would say this to Ford

                        Three times I have been to my local Ford dealer to spend £23k on a new Ranger, sat in the office ready to place a deposit, no stock in the country of the model and colour .................

                        So I say **** you Ford, I"ll keep my money in the bank
                        poor Ruddy, won't be able to use his new sig pic until he can get the colour he wants

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by grum View Post
                          do you ever tell us any good news on here you DOOM MONGERER ...............


                          and on another note, theres a printer inkjet cartridge factory closing soon cos people don't photocopy anything anymore !!!!!!!!!!

                          fpmsl.....THATS GOLD grum>
                          Life is Racing......
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                          everything else is just waiting

                          ...or buftying.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Mr. Escort View Post
                            ANSWER....Move to Australia...its warm, sunny, and they dont let any tom dick and harry in.....and the rs world is growing at a good rate of knots....but bring your Rs's with you.....

                            Nah ****orf we're fussy about who we let in......dunno how you got in??

                            It is warm and sunny though!
                            Life is Racing......
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                            everything else is just waiting

                            ...or buftying.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by grum View Post
                              poor Ruddy, won't be able to use his new sig pic until he can get the colour he wants
                              Sorted son, 3 cylinders, 60mpg, £20 road tax , drove it out of the showroom yesterday and now I have my GTi back off the wife



                              Think I'll be removing the stripes as they are so last year eh Grum ?

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                              • #30
                                I read that although the production of the Transit in Southampton is to close,all the new Transits will now be built in TURKEY !!
                                The guy in Australia has not told us how expensive vehicles are there,as when I was there this year new cars were very expensive! My daughter has a Toyota Kluger 2003 model ,so its 9 years old and she paid more than i would dream of doing .Story is Julia Gillard is going to open the doors and let them all in like Blair did here !!!

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