New RSOC concourse class

[escosracer]

pebble beach has a "barn find" class, quite nice to see them unrestored things being pulled out of barns tbh

as mentioned earlier to determine where the border lies between restored and unrestored states can be hard for the judges and dissapointing for the owners.

[steven f]

i wouldnt class a bit of paintwork a restoration job but full paint engine out painted re trimmed is a restoration even a blind man can tell the difference between a fully restored car from an original car

[Tim]

there a nice mk1 mex on car and classics for sale that would be good for this class

[steven f]

there a nice mk1 mex on car and classics for sale that would be good for this class

you got a link ??

[Tim]

looks a gem of a car

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C266834

[topaz]

it's had a pair of wings? does that mean it's been restored?

[KelvinS1965]

it's had a pair of wings? does that mean it's been restored?

Well yes, judging by the answer to my question further up as it must have had some paintwork too (reading between the lines it may have had a full respray taking the comments about the paintwork being better than when it was new). Doesn't stop it being a nice example though.

It just doesn't seem very long ago that my friends and I were trashing around in similar cars to this treating them as nothing particularly special, just 'nippy' and chuckable cars that didn't cost a fortune to buy or run. My mate scraped his Harrier as it needed new sills putting on it back in the 80s.

[wetandwindy2]

I never did get these people that stick their cars up on blocks with mirrors jammed under them? That was the beginning of the end, it started with the 3i brigade, trailer queeens and the like, chrome plating everything in sight...

Genuine enthusiasts can (or at least should) be able to appreciate a nice clean car or, even a not so clean example.

Whether or not it's soul destroying listening to planks ripping the p*§§ out of your car, whether it be details that they think are wrong or just the car's general apperance, is another matter.

i know what you some people can get very upset at people ripping into there cars ,me personally donnt really care if people slag of my car they can do it all day long its my car and i am happy with how it is

[KelvinS1965]

i know what you some people can get very upset at people ripping into there cars ,me personally donnt really care if people slag of my car they can do it all day long its my car and i am happy with how it is

Call me old fashioned, but slaging someone's car off in front of them is pretty damn rude IMHO: It might be in some kind of superior way to show how knowledgable they are (or not as is sometimes the case when you hear the crap some people come out with at car shows). I'm not sure I'd bother taking mine to shows when it's done as I'll no doubt get sick of hearing how some detail isn't original (which would be amusing seeing as we've owned it in our family since it was 1 year old, complete with the aftermarket sunroof, which gives most concours fans a heart attack it seems ).

I don't know how many of you have been to club meetings for other makes? I've been to the annual meeting for the VX220 owners club the last two years, sharing a drive on the track with a good friend of mine (it's his car). These cars are up to 10 years old, so a different dynamic, though many owners are in their 40's so not all youngsters. They are much more interested in modifications than originality and how much better their car goes round the track than it did the year before. I don't think there was one car there that couldn't have done with a wash and polish afterwards, but no one seemed bothered...they just enjoyed the meeting and the meal/drinks afterwards (most staying at the same hotel).


Maybe it's the age and value of the cars that makes the difference, but I certainly found it enjoyable compared to worrying about whether a car had the right fitting under the bonnet or whatever.

[wetandwindy2]

have had a couple of nasty comments full of filler etc remember one guy saying yeah but its been welded must have been rotten .I just laughed at him and walked away as he obviously didnt have a clue what he was on about .Maybe jealousy as i heard later that the first person was wanting it for himself so i guess he was peed of with me


there is a big difference between constructive critisisim(cannt spell that)and allout slagging

[wetandwindy2]

oh and yes there is filler on the car and it has been welded

[Chesney]

I like to think i appreciate all mk2's whatever condition. I may sometimes comment on something I may change 'if' the car was mine but certainly don't slag other cars. Sunroofs do seem to be an issue but if the cars nice who cares about the roof.

[KelvinS1965]

Yes, but it does help if it has a roof. Regarding filler, if you've ever watched the TV series 'American Hotrod' you'll see that even the pros use a thin skim of filler to get their bodywork really smooth (though they do virtually rub most of it away after sanding). I think there's a world of difference between a wheel arch that is 99% filler and a thin skim to level the defects.

I've replaced wheel arches on cars in the past (not Mk2s but the same principle) and you really can't do it without some filler. I can lead load, but unless it's in a high stress area I don't bother doing that. Even if I did lead load a wheel arch during repair, is that really any better than filler once it's done and painted...only I'd know. [I know fillter and primer can absorb moisture, but most of us restoring older cars don't leave them sat outside unpainted in all weathers after doing such repairs].

[wetandwindy2]

I like to think i appreciate all mk2's whatever condition. I may sometimes comment on something I may change 'if' the car was mine but certainly don't slag other cars. Sunroofs do seem to be an issue but if the cars nice who cares about the roof.

exactly what i meant sometimes someone else ideas are much better or how you may have done something doesnt look right ,have had a few comments like that on here and they were greatly appreciated ,i found this forum especially good for info and being honest if something didnt look quite right or ****y