english or atlas??

[RS2000CHRIS]

any help would be great to end a debate to the following:-
the axel found on most mk2's were the diff bolts in from the front of the casing is this called an english axel??
the rare axel found on a few mk2's were the diff bolts in from the back with the tin plate is this classed as a baby atlas???
I know the real names as per a haynes workshop manual are a 'timken type' & a 'sailsbury type'
[/b]

[RS2000CUSTOM]

So what debate would you like us to clarify ?

English axle is the most popular Escort axle

The Salisbury is more likely to be found in a Capri

Here is a pic of an English diff unit - hhhhmmmm nice a 4.4 diff with Quaffe ATB LSD - cant wait to fit it !!

[Daryl Fletcher]

"baby atlas"

Chris,
The 'rare' axle from the mk2 you talk of is of similar design to that which is known as the 'atlas'
The Atlas axle is only found underneath Capri's, where the dif bolts into the casing by removing the tin plate from the back.
The fabled 'Baby Atlas' is a very rare thing indeed to find.
They were never fitted to any escort as standard, only available as an option for the rally boys. Yes they are the same as that found underneath a capri but in friendly escort width.
The English axle as we all know and love is the standard duty underneath every escort, where the dif, bolted into its housing, bolts up to the casing from the front. Making ratio changes a doddle compared to the Atlas.

Anyway, back to your rare axle.
This axle is a bit of an oddity. I believe they were fitted to some automatic mkII's as there design is stronger.
The standard english and the jerky auto not going together too well, so suffering reliability problems.
I also have one of these axles, and when first aquiring it i thought it was the fabled 'baby'.
But, on inspection you will find that nothing from the atlas type axle will fit.
Indeed it is an english size dif, with english splined shafts.
So to recap, it is an English axle that looks like an Atlas.

OK!

Blimey.

Yours,
Daryl F.
:-)

[TepiTheFinn]

Hi everybody,
you are talking about the german made salisbury-type KÖLN axle.

Köln axles are fitted to all german made mainstream 1100&1300 Mk I&II Escorts. Weakest of all escort axles.

BABY ATLAS axles are fitted under german made 1100&1300 Escorts producted in years 1968-1969.
IT IS NOT JUST AFTERMARKET HD GROUP 1 AXLE!!!

English (Timken) axles are under every german made 1600 (Kent-engine) and RS Escorts

Köln and Atlas is easy to identify by bolt pattern of dif.housing plate.
And Atlas looks bigger.


Cheers,
Tepi