hamilton

[Dave1800BDA]

oh dear here we go again

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5133456,00.html

[hally]

cant view link can you post what it says dave?

[Dave1800BDA]

cant view link can you post what it says dave?

Lewis Hamilton and his McLaren team have been disqualified from the Australian Grand Prix for giving "deliberately misleading" evidence to investigating race stewards.
The sport's world governing body FIA reopened an investigation on Thursday into the circumstances which saw Toyota's Jarno Trulli pass Hamilton during a safety car period in Melbourne.
A post-race stewards' probe in Australia adjudged Trulli at fault and handed the Italian a 25-second penalty, dropping him from third to 12th.
But after hearing team radio transmissions from the Australian GP, the decision has been reversed with Hamilton and McLaren now punished for providing intentionally disingenuous information to the Melbourne hearing.
Hamilton, who was originally listed in fourth place in Melbourne, has therefore been excluded from any points for the race while Trulli has been reinstated to third.
In a statement, the stewards declared: "The Stewards having considered the new elements presented to them from the 2009 Australian Formula One Grand Prix, consider that driver No 1 Lewis Hamilton and the competitor Vodafone McLaren Mercedes acted in a manner prejudicial to the conduct of the event by providing evidence deliberately misleading to the Stewards at the hearing on Sunday 29th March 2009, a breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code.
"Under Article 158 of the International Sporting Code the driver No 1 Lewis Hamilton and the competitor Vodafone McLaren Mercedes are excluded from the race classification for the 2009 Australian Grand Prix and the classification is amended accordingly."
No appeal

McLaren team principle Martin Whitmarsh revealed they will not appeal, although they are from satisfied with the decision.
"Obviously we are disappointed by what happened but in the circumstances, we are not going to appeal," he said.
"As we see it, during the closing stages of the race under difficult
conditions, there was a safety car incident where Trulli fell off the circuit and Lewis legitimately passed.
"Lewis didn't do anything abnormal and it was clear Trulli shouldn't have passed him.
"But we have to accept the decision. As you would imagine Lewis is extremely disappointed.
"It's a harsh decision but I think that experience has told us that you have to accept these decisions and these things that come along and you focus on this weekend and the races beyond that

[TimGR]

So Hamilton let Truli past, and as a result of not admitting so, he got excluded

The correct result should have been to reinstate Truli to 3rd and Hamilton back to 4th - but the FIA have penalised Hamilton/Mclaren for allegedly misleading them (they did not admit to having told LH to let Truli past) by disqualifying him.

[Banishit]

I think the FIA have it in for any UK driver theres always something wrong

[graham John]

it gets worse..............




A spokesman for F1's governing body late Thursday would not rule out ‘further action’ against McLaren Mercedes and Lewis Hamilton.

Following a reconvened stewards hearing at Sepang, the reigning world champion was excluded from the results of the Australian Grand Prix, having been found guilty of ‘deliberately misleading’ the Melbourne inquiry.

"We could not rule out further action at this stage," the spokesman said in Malaysia.

It is Hamilton and McLaren's breach of article 151c of the International Sporting Code that could carry penalties ranging from reprimands to total exclusion from the championship.

Rumours at Sepang suggested the matter could be referred by the FIA to the World Motor Sport Council.

McLaren Team Principal Martin Whitmarsh, however, insists that neither the team nor Hamilton 'lied'.



"I don't know what they meant by (deliberately misleading), you'd have to ask them," he said as he addressed swarms of media in the paddock.

"They believe that the omission of the information about the radio conversation between the team and Lewis was withheld and that is what they believe was misleading."

Triple world champion Niki Lauda told the German broadcaster RTL that he considers it ‘the biggest joke of all time’ that the FIA took four days to come to a definitive ruling about the incident.


cheeRS

[hotrs2000]

What makes you think that the old men in the FIA don't like a young black UK driver who wins races.

[plentysideways]

I think it is a terrible shame that the FIA cant be banned from motorsport for an indefinte period by the world motorsport council; as in my opinion the FIA have done far more to bring F1 into disrepute than anybody else. It would appear to me that the FIA seem to take great exception to one particular team and driver, and for the life of me, I cant understand what that particular driver and team have done to deserve such apparent hatred.To my way of thinking, an all powerful governing body constantly penalising and implying even more draconian punishments to one particular team and or driver is nothing short of bullying.
We all know that there are obscene amounts of money floating around F1, which could possibly lead to some strange decisions being made, but does anybody else have any suggestions as to the cause of this apparent vendetta?

[Martin]

I think it is a terrible shame that the FIA cant be banned from motorsport for an indefinte period by the world motorsport council; as in my opinion the FIA have done far more to bring F1 into disrepute than anybody else. It would appear to me that the FIA seem to take great exception to one particular team and driver, and for the life of me, I cant understand what that particular driver and team have done to deserve such apparent hatred.To my way of thinking, an all powerful governing body constantly penalising and implying even more draconian punishments to one particular team and or driver is nothing short of bullying.
We all know that there are obscene amounts of money floating around F1, which could possibly lead to some strange decisions being made, but does anybody else have any suggestions as to the cause of this apparent vendetta?

The FIA has a very BIG bet on at Ladbrokes for Ferrari to win the Constructors Title

[marky4]

What makes you think that the old men in the FIA don't like a young black UK driver who wins races.

or mclaren

[Dermot]

His reaction

[bortaf]

IMHO Mclaren know the FIA don't like em and will do anything to get at em so why blatently lie in a hearing knowing the conversation over the radio was widely available to the FIA ? plain stupid and greedy, i'm a big LH and Mclaren fan but they deserved it to be honist, should have just admited they let him past and settled for 4th but no lets lie and get 3rd just plain stupid.

[IYK000]

Peed off

That sucks LH drives well and is well liked and a pom so they are having a go I say F*@K them leave him alone (a superstar) tall poppy syndrome pack of C*@TS
death to the infidel's





IYK 000

[TimGR]

IMHO Mclaren know the FIA don't like em and will do anything to get at em so why blatently lie in a hearing knowing the conversation over the radio was widely available to the FIA ? plain stupid and greedy, i'm a big LH and Mclaren fan but they deserved it to be honist, should have just admited they let him past and settled for 4th but no lets lie and get 3rd just plain stupid.

I agree that Mclaren should have come clean about the issue (I don't think the issue is that they lied - rather that they didn't say what actually happened), but there again, why did the FIA exclude Truili in the first place without hearing all the evidence - including the rado conversations, which showed that LH had been told to let Truli pass.

[Kal]

That sucks LH drives well and is well liked and a pom so they are having a go I say F*@K them leave him alone (a superstar) tall poppy syndrome pack of C*@TS
death to the infidel's





IYK 000

wtf