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  • Is this an RS1600 engine number?

    NA0032*. What do you reckon? Logbook says Escort RS1600 with a BFATNA chassis prefix.

    1973 on the M.

  • #2
    the MkII BDA no's start with HRE, the NA is chassis build date code (July '73), not sure if Brian Hart built the Mk1 engines, the early ones came from Cosworth AFAIK, but if the later Mk1 engines came from BH then no it's not.

    What's the engine code on the VIN, if it's L3 then it's a 16 X-flow i.e. Mex

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rwdrs View Post
      the MkII BDA no's start with HRE, the NA is chassis build date code (July '73), not sure if Brian Hart built the Mk1 engines, the early ones came from Cosworth AFAIK, but if the later Mk1 engines came from BH then no it's not.

      What's the engine code on the VIN, if it's L3 then it's a 16 X-flow i.e. Mex
      only 50 were stamped with HRE, the rest were just year and number stamped
      MK2 member 091, RSOC member 2675, RS18 No 001, HRE7724 /50

      My Car in the VbGarage and in My Album

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      • #4
        I thought "the man" would be along soon.

        were the other 59 MkIIs sold without engines

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        • #5
          Need more info really. What other numbers are stamped in the head.
          It has every chance that the engine number will be the same as the chassis number.
          There will be a seperate number possibly starting WE

          The chassis plates will confirm if the car is an RS1600 or not.


          There is no such thing as an L3 engine code on a Mk1.

          L5 is RS1600
          L7 is Mexico

          On the body colour tag
          The model codes are:

          C for RS1600's
          X for Mexico's
          Mark....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mexicomark View Post
            Need more info really. What other numbers are stamped in the head.
            It has every chance that the engine number will be the same as the chassis number.
            There will be a seperate number possibly starting WE

            The chassis plates will confirm if the car is an RS1600 or not.


            There is no such thing as an L3 engine code on a Mk1.

            L5 is RS1600
            L7 is Mexico

            On the body colour tag
            The model codes are:

            C for RS1600's
            X for Mexico's
            mark, were all RS1600s stamped with the chassis number on the head
            MK2 member 091, RSOC member 2675, RS18 No 001, HRE7724 /50

            My Car in the VbGarage and in My Album

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dave1800BDA View Post
              mark, were all RS1600s stamped with the chassis number on the head

              As far as I know, yes they all were.
              Mark....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mexicomark View Post
                As far as I know, yes they all were.
                what about the iron and alloy blocks any numbers on them denoting RS1600
                MK2 member 091, RSOC member 2675, RS18 No 001, HRE7724 /50

                My Car in the VbGarage and in My Album

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dave1800BDA View Post
                  what about the iron and alloy blocks any numbers on them denoting RS1600
                  Not that I'm aware of.
                  All the stamps were on the heads.
                  I know the early engines were built up at Weslake & Hart built some also.
                  These are usually identified by there WE or HE marks followed by a build number.
                  That is usually stamped a bit further along to the ford engine number.
                  Last edited by Mexicomark; 30-01-2008, 14:11. Reason: spelling
                  Mark....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mexicomark View Post
                    There is no such thing as an L3 engine code on a Mk1.

                    L5 is RS1600
                    L7 is Mexico
                    L7 I thought as much, but there have to concentrate on other things like WORK at times

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Andyboy View Post
                      NA0032*. What do you reckon? Logbook says Escort RS1600 with a BFATNA chassis prefix.

                      1973 on the M.
                      a mate of mine used to own NEL ***N and that was a red MK1 Mex. NEL is a bournemouth number...

                      <M>
                      [/quote]ford-rs.co.uk

                      Mark
                      Ex X-pack owner




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                      • #12
                        No engiine and no plates. The car (a pile of bits) is a weird one - registered in 1973 in Leeds as an RS1600 with the above on the V5. In 1981 it had a 1600GT Crossflow fitted - I expect the BDA blew up or something like that. At the same time DVLA amended the V5 to read Escort Mexico which, as far as I'm aware, was never strictly possible. In '81 one of the owners applied for a V5 using the V62 form and wrote 'Escort Mexico'. This is when I think the 'swap' took place, a clerical **** up by DVLA.
                        I thought I had a Mexico - but I applied for all the previous keeper history and it turns out it started life as an RS1600. I've asked DVLA to amend the V5C so we'll see what occurs.

                        NEL was indeed a Bournmouth/Poole number. An 'NEL' Rallye Sport EScort would have come from F English in Poole.

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                        • #13
                          Here it is in black and white. Surprised? You bet I was!

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                          • #14
                            nice suprise non the less

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                            • #15
                              i had a mk1 mex than the dlvc amended to rs2000 years ago so it was possible

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