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    BEWARE – The person that crashed into you - How good is their insurance company?

    When someone hits your cherished RS and they admit liability, you think your ok, or are you? It’s peace of mind when you have good insurance cover, but what happens when someone hits you with a rotten insurance company that does not care about classic cars?

    Having just put my car back on the road, and on my second day out this year, 2 months ago a young girl drove into the back of my RS, claiming she did not see me…………there in front of her eye’s! This little mistake resulted in damage to the rear panel, bumper and fog light. To my relief she was insured, she admitted liability and I put in a claim to her “well known” insurance company. I then went to my trusted body repairer for an estimate of costs to repair the car back to it’s previous perfect condition, which turned out to be £1940.00 to strip car, fit new rear panel, bumper and paint which includes black panel, fitting stripes, and painting the rear wings to avoid matching up problems.

    Next the insurance engineer came to view my car. I explained that I could see no alternative, that I would have to spend my time locating the parts, and the prices of new parts could be at a premium as I would be looking for some genuine Ford parts, for example estimated £300 for a back panel. Later on in the week he telephoned me to tell me that he was prepared to repair the car, followed by a ridiculous offer of £1739, which I of course refused as it did not even cover the cost of the labour and paint, never mind the parts. The company then sent me a letter to confirm that I had refused their offer and requested detail estimates to cover the cost of parts. In the meantime I learnt that the engineer is known to be “penny pinching”, the insurance company is one of the worst for paying up enough for repairs, and someone had to threaten them with claims court to settle the problem.

    I began to panic a little, I then sent in an accurate estimate of parts, which came to £536, and added a claim for cost of time spent on the internet looking for parts, telephone calls, fuel to collect parts, and my time. The result is 2 months later they have been difficult to deal with. Every time I ring, I have to speak to someone different who has little knowledge of how the claim is progressing. The staff do not return my calls and nobody picks up my mail for well over a week, I am then told that a fax is quicker, and when I send a fax I am then told that it is probably lost in the mailroom. I find staff unhelpful, and nobody takes any responsibility for the claim. They even told me they were not obliged to repair the car, what were they going to do, write it off?

    Two weeks ago the insurance company agreed with the garage to knock the charges down, they have mentioned an acceptable payment for the parts and have given the go ahead for repairs, but they have not had the decency to tell me about any of this. Instead they are now attempting to run down the rest of my claim (uninsured losses) by finding problems with my Internet costs and not wanting to pay up for my time.

    A Classic car insurance claim is totally different from a modern day car claim as the parts are not as easy to obtain. It involves higher costs for parts from specialists etc, usually means that the repairer is not set-up to locate these hard too find parts and the job ends up with either yourself which takes hours, or you employ someone to do it for you, which is going to cost you, especially if you employ a solicitor or a plumber to do this! Who would take this specialised task on for nothing?

    When I first considered my claim I did not intend to claim for these “uninsured losses”, but after such a low offer and as time went on I realised how much work and cost was involved in finding these parts. Has anyone experienced any of these problems and how did you get a fair deal? It’s a problem we should all consider, it’s put me through misery trying to deal with them.

    RS2000 EXPRESS
    RS Mk2 Club 099

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    I am waiting after nearly 6 months for my uninsured losses to be sorted following a motorcycle claim.

    My insurers paid out a cash in lieu of repairs sum within 3 weeks, but the third party are stalling on paying for my damaged clothing.

    They have paid up for my excess, and by doing so have admitted their insured to be responsible for the accident - over £1000 of protective clothing was damaged and I've not been able to ride the bike since 1st march this year !!

    Good luck with your claim, I think you'll find ALL insurers are going to be a pain, they will try and wriggle out of paying if they can.
    Cheers Rob.



    www.RWD-Escort.co.uk

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    • #3
      could you not of claimed off your own insurance company, and then left it up to them and their legal team to recover their costs? saved you all the hassle .
      i'm asuming your fully comp?
      😯

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mark M View Post
        could you not of claimed off your own insurance company, and then left it up to them and their legal team to recover their costs? saved you all the hassle .
        i'm asuming your fully comp?

        This is what I did - and yet the third party insurers are stalling paying the legal team, who won't pay out until the third party insurers do
        Cheers Rob.



        www.RWD-Escort.co.uk

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        • #5
          Tim, I have seen your car, and what a pain this has been for you....

          There is only one answer....put the offender on a bus instead.

          Seriously, your car will look mintier than ever before too long so don't despair. Don't forget to join the whiplash club next time !

          See you Sunday AT THE LOCAL SHOW:

          http://www.clwydpracticalclassics.co.uk/


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          Last edited by Aled; 13-07-2007, 22:59.





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          • #6
            If at any time you felt unhappy with the service level you were receiving you should of told them to stop the claim and then approached your own company and asked them to deal with it. Admittedly this would of cost you your excess but this would of been returned to you in about six weeks when the claim was settled. Had you gone straight to your company as the liability wasnt in dispute then you might of got the outcome you deserved a lot quicker.

            If they are giving you a load of unneccessary shit over costs and who did what and when etc ask them to photocopy their complete file on the case, all phonecalls to be transcripted and sent to you for your perusal as you may wish to make a formal complaint to the Insurance Ombudsman. You will be surprised how nice they will be to you !

            You must remember that there primary exercise is to limit costs, wether this be somebody penny pinching or somebody else being greedy thats a different matter. Always be polite yet firm with who ever you deal with. You just need to know that you have acted honourably and truthfully, if any of this was to go legal in anyway then the Insurance firm has to show that they have acted in "best faith" ie whiter than white or they get a black mark recorded against them in the year end figures, and none of them want that. You just need to show that you have been wronged, game over !!

            Best of luck
            Dave.

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            • #7
              Thanks lads for all your help.

              A few people have asked me why I have not done this through my own company. When my Mondeo was involved in a slight bump (obviously less complicated being a modern car) 2 years ago, I was advised to claim direct off the third party insurance, and it all went ok.

              You have given me a few things to think about over the weekend.

              Thanks Aled, see you Sunday.

              CheeRS Tim.

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              • #8
                I had an old goat run into the rear of OFE prior to being restored, he said he was too busy having a good look and not watching the lights turn red or me stopping, luckily this happened infront of 4 Policemen sitting in a Landrover in Belfast great witnesses

                his insurance firm told me to take it to a repair place, obviously they could not get the parts (new rear bumper and foglights) minor I know but

                so then they contacted me and told me to find the parts once found contact them and they would pay which they did £180 for a bumper from Mr Curtis + the other bits, total nearly £300 inc the post and gave me £100 to fit them myself

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Banishit View Post
                  I had an old goat run into the rear of OFE prior to being restored, he said he was too busy having a good look and not watching the lights turn red or me stopping, luckily this happened infront of 4 Policemen sitting in a Landrover in Belfast great witnesses

                  his insurance firm told me to take it to a repair place, obviously they could not get the parts (new rear bumper and foglights) minor I know but

                  so then they contacted me and told me to find the parts once found contact them and they would pay which they did £180 for a bumper from Mr Curtis + the other bits, total nearly £300 inc the post and gave me £100 to fit them myself

                  and then you sold it lol


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