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Frosticles
15-12-2003, 19:25
I is really not a happy bunny! :boom: Just got home from work today to find a letter from the DVLC on my doorstep wanting £25 "fine" for me not declaring my Mex as SORN. In the past I've just kept her locked up in my garage over the winter and re-taxed her come the Spring. Never had any problems before Untill now! Is there any way I can plead ignorance and get let off the fine????? Anyone else out there had such experiences with this? Yours, A very disgruntled Frosticles! :sad:
RS2000CUSTOM
15-12-2003, 19:37
I completed a SORN for SKC and I still got a friendly £25.00 "fine".
I sent in screen prints off web pages (showing date and time etc) from my rebuild and they sent a letter saying they would NOT be pursuing the £25.00 but to let them know as soon as car finished.
rusty&dusty
15-12-2003, 19:49
Kevin, don't think you have anywhere to go on this, the tax reminder would have stated that declaration of SORN was required if you did not intend to renew the tax continuity.
At the present time if you buy an untaxed vehicle you don't have to declare SORN, but from January the DVLA will be empowered to seek out untaxed vehicles from their records, regardless of whether or not they are being used on a public road - the introduction of SORN was the start of this thickening wedge, predominantly aimed against motorists who are uninsured and thus unable to obtain road tax.
Regards,
RS2000CUSTOM
15-12-2003, 19:58
against motorists who are uninsured and thus unable to obtain road tax.
More laws like SORN are needed - I see too many victims of accidents that have to claim against their own insurance becase the driver of the other vehicle has no insurance - regardless of blame !!
rusty&dusty
15-12-2003, 20:54
oops, apology time. I've just checked DVLA leaflet INS11 (the one that accompanies the tax reminder but never gets read) which states that the new keeper of an unlicenced vehicle must declare SORN if he/she does not relicence it
Kevin, I think you have probably saved me a £25.00 fine, thanks very much !
can you not say that you posted it off?
lost in the post?
pmsl @ 25 quid, mine was about 90.....
After i sold the car....
got one for KIA too for 25 quid, the pain in the ar$e thing is you have to do this everytime tax is due, like once aint enough....
Just write to them and explain, worked for me.
Frosticles
17-12-2003, 02:55
thanx Yawwl, will try to worm out of it somehow!!!!! Will keep you posted, Kev.
paul spence
17-12-2003, 18:08
Kev £25 is nowt to you mate :-)
Frosticles
18-12-2003, 22:25
I'll have you know it's my life savings Mr Rich Northerner! :grin:
paul spence
19-12-2003, 19:35
:shock: :lol: :lol: Rich I wish mate.
Frosticles
23-01-2004, 23:31
Got away with the fine. Told them I had posted the form off when I received it. Bit lucky there I think but worth writing to them. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Just be thankful we dont have to pay an admin fee for sorn - because that was the original proposal! One way of avoiding forgetting is to realign your daily-driven cars tax expiry to the same month your RS or whatever is routinely taken off the road. Then both reminders come together and you can hand in the sorn at the same time you renew the tax on your ordinary road car
rusty&dusty
24-01-2004, 07:51
Well done Kevin, good result.
Deepest Blue
24-01-2004, 09:39
Nice one Mr F. :thumbs_up:
Judge_Fudge
24-01-2004, 15:39
Good thread this one, just saved me a potential fine.. I had no idea you had to declare it SORN if you were the new owner of an already SORN'd car.
The form to declare SORN is available on the dvla website in pdf, if anyones interested its form V890.
dasadrew
24-01-2004, 15:49
... who, incidentally, as 'young' 36 year olds may have built the car that you now so cherish. The side jab at pensioners wasn't really necessary for the good SORS tip!
Judge_Fudge
24-01-2004, 17:38
Apologies, bit childish of me.. post edited. Sorry for any offence caused.
dasadrew
24-01-2004, 18:07
what a gentleman after all! Good on you m8!
Judge_Fudge
24-01-2004, 18:15
Thankyou, I don't want to make enemies on a great BB like this.
A large slice of humble pie has been eaten.
Deepest Blue
27-01-2004, 08:33
Now my brother has just recieved his £25.00 SORN fine for his car after buying off Paul Mex last year!! :banghead:
Frosticles
27-01-2004, 13:09
Gonna be a few of these I think.
Just got my "fine" through the post today for not declaring SORN , thing is tho the car is fully taxed up and has been since i got the car back in october
paul mex
30-01-2004, 21:14
Got a fine last week for a car i sold last september to Neils bro, I then decide to sorn my current mk2 so sent a sorn form off last week, guess what turned up this morning,yep you guessed it another £25 fine for my current car,
do i just pay it :cheese: or do i have a leg to stand on :geek: i have had the car 4 months and its a bare shell but never got round to sorning it,but within a week of doing so i get a fine, tryed ringing the number on the fine but get a recorded messsage saying that due to extreme demand on the number it is now out of use :clown: :clown: :clown: :clown:
cheers paul
Deepest Blue
31-01-2004, 08:36
Paul, [Lucky Jim!]
I would think you should be able to tell DVLA to :bootyshake: as the vehicle was declared SORN by the previous owner [i.e. me!]. You haven't applied to tax it since so it remains notified.
Worth a try mate?
Neil
paul mex
31-01-2004, 21:16
Cheers Neil, think it may be worth a shot, looks like i might have woke someone up at DVLA when i sorned it last week :bom:
have you got that engine out yet? if you have a good rs2 loom will ya keep it to one side and will pick it up with rest of gear :compress:
yellow peril
31-01-2004, 21:42
whats the crack with this sorn thing... i mean i understand the principle but i dont want to come unstuck.
After my 8 year rebuild, took car off road pre sorn, i taxed it for 6 months in sept 03..... that tax is now due out at end of feb04 but i dont want to re tax for 6 month period till start of april or may04, so i get all of the summer using the thing.
Is there a minimum sorn period? if so what.
What happens in sept 04 when the tax runs out and i want to mothball her till the spring, i am guessing that i would need to sorn her again!
any ideas?
paul
rusty&dusty
31-01-2004, 22:46
When the tax renewal reminder is received you have two choices; renew the tax or declare SORN.
SORN will be automatically removed by the DVLA when the car is next taxed, so the whole cycle will then begin again in 6/12 months time, depending on how long the new tax disc lasts.
DVLA leaflet INS11 contains a small section on SORN, likely you may have a copy of this in with a tax reminder or recent V5 registration return from Swansea. Alternatively, the DVLA website, as mentioned earlier by Judge _Fudge, could be helpful.
All vehicles that have been thru' the Swansea computer for taxation/change of ownership since SORN was introduced (1998) will be soft targets for a fine if either a new tax disc or SORN is not applied for.
HTH
yellow peril
02-02-2004, 09:32
cheers Rusty & Dusty
Very clear explaination.
Helps alot
ta
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