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martin c
04-01-2009, 14:51
As some of you will know I sold my Old engine to e4ggy last year when I was feeling a bit disillusioned with it all, didn't know what I wanted at all, maybe a bit :MadMacMad: but at least I had the sense to keep the car.
Was going to put her back to standardish while I decided but at the Mcrae weekend & Crail that made the decision for me, I don't do standard :bash: So the hunt was on for an engine, I looked at XE power, even went as far a seriously looking at engines, Atmo YB,duratec + zetec as not really planning to go pinto again and fancying a change.
Well that all changed when being in the right place at the right time I was offered a complete Ron Harris pinto, brief spec, It's Ron Harris's personal engine which he built new for 08, been dyno run, and final set up at Sanspeed with graph's to prove, all the engine has done is 2 runs at Brighton speed trial's in Ron's mk1 this year, It ran a 13.34 @ a 13.35 so should be quite nippy :D
It's a 2.1
Injection crank( Ron says these rev better being lighter than a steel one and are safe to 9,000+) It's the injection rods and pistons which hold them back normally
Steel Cossie Rods
Accralite forged pistons - which gives you a safe 9,000+ rpm :shock:
Full race head to Ron's spec done by Steve @ Vulcan.
Motorbike spark plug adapters to run bike plugs otherwise the plugs will hit the pistons :D They are NGK DPR8EA-9's
RH1 cam 3,800 - 8,250 powerband.
Twin 48 Webbers, these are the older Italian ones which have been refurbished with all new internals, Ron reckons these are better and stay in tune for longer.
AP sprint clutch @ L&B flywheel.
Modded distributor to Ron's spec for the engine
Lumenition Ignition.
Here's a few pics of the engine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/Picture011Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/Picture010Medium-1.jpg
Down the Inlet ports
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/Picture006Medium.jpg
Motorbike plug adaptors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08023Medium.jpg
The RH1 cam
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08028Medium.jpg
And one of the valvetrain
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08026Medium.jpg

martin c
04-01-2009, 14:52
I had planned to get on with fitting the engine over the xmas hols but have been lade low with this flu virus thin for the last month or so :bash: :bash: but finally feeling much better now so next weekend the work starts to get her back on the road :dance:
This is what the car looks like today
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08015Medium.jpg
And the engine bay
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08016Medium.jpg
Kinda empty I know :roll:
So the plan is next weekend to get the engine bay rwady for the engine and the following weekeng to put her in :D
Got a few extra bit to fit with the engine
Trans-x 5spd gearbox,
3pc 2 1/4"manifold into 2 1/2 " collector ans 2 1/2" twin box system as recommended by Ron
Lumennition Ignition system
And a new Plate diff, just need to build her up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08018Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08019Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08020Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08022Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08021Medium.jpg
Also had my Belhousing modded to take a cossie 4x4 starter motor
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/Picture009Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/Picture008Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/Picture004Medium.jpg

oldskooljoe
04-01-2009, 15:05
Nice one martin:cool:

should go well with the engine in..all looks spot on aswell:D

graham John
04-01-2009, 15:10
very nice martin, wished i could be in the right place at the right time for an engine like that,
ref the lumenition, where did you get it from and did it come as a kit as per the picture, if so, what is the kit called /

cheeRS

mk1gaz
04-01-2009, 15:19
Top stuff Martin , bring on the black lines !!!!!!!!! :cool:

martin c
04-01-2009, 15:37
Just being fortunate with money sitting after selling the old engine ;) It's the CEK 150 kit, you get everything in the picture, £190 from Peter Lloyd

very nice martin, wished i could be in the right place at the right time for an engine like that,
ref the lumenition, where did you get it from and did it come as a kit as per the picture, if so, what is the kit called /

cheeRS

graham John
04-01-2009, 15:45
Just being fortunate with money sitting after selling the old engine ;) It's the CEK 150 kit, you get everything in the picture, £190 from Peter Lloyd

thanks martin, i will call in and see peter tomorrow,

cheeRS

martin c
04-01-2009, 15:51
Your welcome :D

paul andrews
04-01-2009, 17:20
should go like **** this once you have all the goodies fitted,very nice to see the full spec of the build you have listed as so many secret sqiurrel builds about these days.good luck and its in a very nice car.keep it updated martin

martin c
04-01-2009, 17:28
Cheers,

Agree with the secret squirrel part, To many people think they have an engine that they dont, Time will tell once I take her down the 1/4 mile.

Will be interesting to see how she goes in my car.

The Harris pedigree is spot on :cool:



should go like **** this once you have all the goodies fitted,very nice to see the full spec of the build you have listed as so many secret sqiurrel builds about these days.good luck and its in a very nice car.keep it updated martin

paul andrews
04-01-2009, 17:31
will be a thumping track weapon me thinks m8,that would hammer a 400plus hp cossie mk2 round brands etc i reckon

martin c
04-01-2009, 17:33
All being well a few of us hoping to come down to Brand later on the year for one of the RF track days :cool:

paul andrews
04-01-2009, 17:36
excellent stuff i will be attending most of there days this year as mine will be done in feb,you can rape me round there then

Rallye
04-01-2009, 17:50
Very nice.

What make is the exhaust ?

martin c
04-01-2009, 18:02
Not so sure about that, some quick cars down your way :rolleyes:excellent stuff i will be attending most of there days this year as mine will be done in feb,you can rape me round there then

It's an Ashley exhaust :cool:
Very nice.

What make is the exhaust ?

FoMoCo
04-01-2009, 18:06
What cogs are you putting with the slipper Martin.


cheeRS Gary...

martin c
04-01-2009, 18:09
Not totally sure yet Gary, either a 4.1 or a 4.4 depends what I get first;)

FoMoCo
04-01-2009, 18:10
Any plans for the brakes?

cheeRS Gary...

martin c
04-01-2009, 18:12
LOL, Meant for going not stopping :eek:

Got princess 4 pots modded to take 10 1/8" vented & grooved discs with mintex pads

Any plans for the brakes?

cheeRS Gary...

marky4
04-01-2009, 18:39
you will have one f###ing quick car when that engine is in martin :cool::)

lee bishop
04-01-2009, 18:53
very nice martin, seems a shame though to have all that lovelly high spec stuff, then finish it off with an ashley system . . . . . :p

SHIFTY
04-01-2009, 19:22
Gonna be some machine Martin :cool:
And sound spot on too! :cool:

wiggyrs
04-01-2009, 19:58
Lovely bit of kit you got there Martin :cool:

brotherhood
04-01-2009, 23:11
Very nice! Have been thinking the same lately myself about what engine to upgrade to from my pinto. But, I was watching a old video the other day of my mates old mk2 with a 233 bhp pinto around curborough in lichfield (car was featured in first classic ford issue) and there is something about the sound of a sorted pinto being used in anger so i think for now, I'll stay put.:D

martin c
05-01-2009, 22:42
Cheers guys, looking forward to getting her up and running and out for a wee test:D

turbospud
05-01-2009, 23:00
your gonna need driving lessons from sharky on how to use those 235 torques

martin c
05-01-2009, 23:12
LOL, Be just like driving a 16 x-flow again:p

martin c
18-01-2009, 17:46
Finally pulled the finger out and put the engine in :D
Decided to try putting the engine and box in as one :shock: Never done it this way before, always done the engine & box separate, apart from a wee fight with the starter motor it went very smoothly :D
Thanks to Colin 2 for giving us a hand this morning :thanks:
Now to get it all connected up over the next few weeks and it will be :dance: :dance: :dance:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08029Medium.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08033Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08032Medium.jpg
Engine now in
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08036Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08039Medium.jpg

Dave1800BDA
18-01-2009, 18:11
glad it went ok, always a bit tight near the tunnel area, prefer the underneath method myself:D

nice banner you have:D

paul andrews
18-01-2009, 19:54
nice,wanna see some vids of this when you've done it m8

LOUIE
18-01-2009, 20:36
looking the part, the tunnels mot a problem dave, thats why i converted it...

are the princess calipers the same you bought with the car martin??

best £20 i spent that old princess

emily
18-01-2009, 20:41
looks terrific Martin , that will be some weapon when finished ;):D

martin c
18-01-2009, 21:28
Yup cant wait to get her back on the road, a wee bit of work still to do though :rolleyes:

Will be good for a wee trundle around :eek:

LOUIE
19-01-2009, 09:01
what sort of times did ron used to run with the engine martin??

martin c
19-01-2009, 20:51
Fast enough:thefinger:

what sort of times did ron used to run with the engine martin??

martin c
19-01-2009, 20:51
Had to sort a broken wire in the loom first tonight :roll: , the blue wire for the alternator was broken so soldered and rejoined that first then re-taped the loom :D
Then test fitted the exhaust manifold, joy soon turned to :? as when I tightened up the bolts the manifold was too close to the chassis rail, nothing a bit of heat won't sort though(same with the last manifold I had as well :bash: )
Here's a few pics from tonight
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/exhaust2Medium.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/exhaust1Medium.jpg

mk1gaz
19-01-2009, 23:25
Looking good Martin :cool: . It should blow your bagpipes onto the back seat .:D

yellowcustom
19-01-2009, 23:38
what makes the manifold?looks a well built piece of kit

LOUIE
20-01-2009, 11:52
like the way you avoided that question martin in case your driving lets it down:rolleyes:

martin c
07-02-2009, 21:15
Got a bit more done, just got the exhaust system to fit, finish off the wiring, a few wee other bits and she'll be ready to go :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/2engine7-2-09Medium.jpg

rsjohn1
07-02-2009, 21:29
Looking good martin, one of the things I noticed was the way you have earthed the lumenition. Best to extend the wire and fix it to the main earth on the inner wing.

regards john

martin c
07-02-2009, 21:32
Cheers John, will put that on the list of things to do then :cool:

martin c
28-02-2009, 21:13
She lives :cool: Fired the Harris engine up for the first time this afternoon :D
Started very easily, Primed the carbs, 5 pumps on the throttle, did this a couple of times and she burst into life


A pic before I started her
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/13_12_08037Large.jpg
And She Lives :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/th_startup.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/?action=view&current=startup.flv)

mk1gaz
28-02-2009, 21:18
Top stuff Martin . Get ready for blast off !!!!!!! :D

Frosticles
28-02-2009, 21:21
Gonna be good this. :)

martin c
28-02-2009, 21:22
Cheers Gaz, Planning on taking her to Crail on the 22nd for a shakedown on the 1/4 mile :cool:

LOUIE
28-02-2009, 22:34
only cos your not able to go round bends!!!!:D

SHIFTY
01-03-2009, 18:40
Sounds the dogs danglies Martin :cool:
Cana wait to see her in action :yeah:

martin c
01-03-2009, 20:23
She's plenty good around the bends :p

only cos your not able to go round bends!!!!:D

marky4
01-03-2009, 21:43
very nice, sounds great :cool::cool:

mk1gaz
02-03-2009, 00:23
Cheers Gaz, Planning on taking her to Crail on the 22nd for a shakedown on the 1/4 mile :cool:
Yeeeee har , get ready too blow away a few turbos !!!!!! :D

ders
05-03-2009, 23:03
Nice mods Martin;)..sounds great!

cheeRS Ders.

Aled
05-03-2009, 23:49
Sounds the beeezz nizzzzz

Hoogi
06-03-2009, 19:58
I do like that..............:D

martin c
06-03-2009, 21:33
Had a busy night last night, built 2 diff's with Colin 2, Built a 4.4 for myself with a new Plate LSD Unit http://www.scottisholdskoolescorts.co.uk/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif and new bearings and a 4.1 for Colin with his ATB and new bearings.

A Lot easier with 2 of us for putting them back together and setting the pinion bearings & backlash.

Hopefully the car will be finished this weekend and I'll get her outside and take some pics http://www.scottisholdskoolescorts.co.uk/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif Not long to test time now http://www.scottisholdskoolescorts.co.uk/images/smilies/banana.gif

Roger Miller
06-03-2009, 22:01
Martin,

howdy,

Can I ask you where you got the radiator from, that's the one to have in my opinion.

Also, IMHO, the extractors will be holding your engine back.

Appreciate a reply on radiator.

Thanks

fast eddie
06-03-2009, 22:08
good work mart, but you could have cleaned it!:D

martin c
06-03-2009, 22:09
Cheers, Got it from West Wales Rally Spares with a Spal fan:cool:

martin c
06-03-2009, 22:11
LOL, I know, not been cleaned since last August :eek:

Hopefully get her finished this weekend and taken outside for a wash :cool:

good work mart, but you could have cleaned it!:D

fast eddie
06-03-2009, 22:17
LOL, I know, not been cleaned since last August :eek:

Hopefully get her finished this weekend and taken outside for a dam good thrashing with plenty of mr c sideway action!!!! :cool:tut tut mart, your a nightmare!:D

martin c
06-03-2009, 22:26
She's not been outside since last August though :rolleyes:

martin c
08-03-2009, 14:20
Well a wee break in the weather, it started drying up a bit so took her for a wee test along the road :D just back as the snow has started again :rolleyes:
Well I can only say Awesome, the smoothest running pinto I've ever driven with that sort of spec, No Cough's, Farts or spitting back through the carbs at all, runs just a smooth as a twin choke
The power well what more can I say but wheelspin, wheelspin and more wheelspin :eek::eek::D:D
Still a few bits to do, Going to change the breather system and need a wee adjustment to the manifold to finish
Here's a few pics, not washed her yet but I'll wait until it's a bit warmer for that.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/3Large.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/4Large.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/5Large.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/6Large.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v513/martinc/mex/1Large.jpg

LOUIE
08-03-2009, 14:23
looking good martin, sounds like youll be changing your tyre choice though as you cant get the power down on the yoko's

martin c
08-03-2009, 14:25
Will be running a mixture of A048's and 888's this year, The engine just wants to rev, witout trying at all she was pulling 7,700 and wanting more:D

rwdrs
08-03-2009, 14:26
looks well, that Mex, the best MkII colour too:D No filters on the DCOEs though?

martin c
08-03-2009, 14:32
Cheers, there will be filters for the road normally, just a wee spinn today though:cool:

maxest
08-03-2009, 14:40
Pls sell me your car!! Stunning:o

martin c
08-03-2009, 14:44
Cheers, Your the 3rd person who has asked to buy her this year:cool:

Pls sell me your car!! Stunning:o