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roths
28-06-2008, 23:27
OK..here's a general opener...

Anybody like the look of the new RS?

I DO.....but not sure whether to flog the old girl (the car that is..) to put down a reasonable downpayment...

What do peeps think of the Focus then??

Simon
:eek:

rwdrs
28-06-2008, 23:39
Must admit I've not see it, but why would you flog the RS (it is appreciating) to buy a car that will loose 7K when you drive it off the forecourt?

Nice if you have it I suppose, I think I'd stick with the MkII myself :D

Banishit
29-06-2008, 00:34
looks mean

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/02/stories/17/01large.jpg

AQUA
29-06-2008, 01:38
Not a patch on the Mk2 RS, though i guess with the way Mk2 prices are at the moment, financially it might be a wise decision, but i'd wait for a second-hand one to avoid the aforementioned depreciation.

graham John
29-06-2008, 09:30
toying with the idea of getting one, however need more firm details on the spec


looks nice though as Bri said,


cheeRS

rwdrs
29-06-2008, 10:02
In other pics I've seen it looks nicer, not so aggressive, what with the bonnet louvers etc in looks a bit too laddish IMO, bit more understatement would be nice. Will it finally be 4–WD, have Ford actually developed a decent 4–WD system since the Sierra system?

Possibly not if the car is to stay under 160–170 ppm CO2

mk1gaz
29-06-2008, 10:36
Plastic shite chaps so save your money and don't bother , Proper Rs' finished in 1992 :( .

Dermot
29-06-2008, 10:41
Fwd I believe. A fancy diff. too.

al77
29-06-2008, 10:58
Fwd I believe. A fancy diff. too.

Ye there talking 280 bhp to the front wheels ok on tarmac but get some of that wet stuff i like to see it handle. I had the old rs focus from new had it two years went back to a escos much better drive :dontknow:

rwdrs
29-06-2008, 11:12
Plastic shite chaps so save your money and don't bother , Proper Rs' finished in 1992 :( .


1982




typo I presume:D

mk1gaz
29-06-2008, 11:29
1982




typo I presume:D
lol , really 1974 when mk1 escorts finished :D

Andyc
29-06-2008, 12:54
looks good how much are they

morcheen
29-06-2008, 12:54
the fronts too busy and the wheels look crap too :(

Banishit
29-06-2008, 12:55
I like it, not so the ST wheels though

roths
29-06-2008, 13:14
Brian

nice pic..haven't seen that before...where did you find it??

Simon
:D

Banishit
29-06-2008, 13:19
Top gear website

I see the price is set to be around £25k

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/02/stories/17/1.html

theres also this pic the car looks more watered down

http://www.speedclub.gr/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ford1.jpg

rwdrs
29-06-2008, 13:26
Compromise bteween the two would be nice.

That nice big front air scoop on the top one was nice (not body colour, looks to STD) and the toned down foglamps look good, but those wheels, just look wrong. Undecided whether a bonnet vent would be good or not.

Surely Top Gear have got the wrong pic, as surely it won't be a 4–door?

rwdrs
29-06-2008, 13:36
some other images...............http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-ford-focus-rs/857784/
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-ford-focus-rs/857784/

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-ford-focus-rs/857785/

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-ford-focus-rs/857786/


Testing at the Nürburgring..............


http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2009-ford-focus-rs/858766/

oxb1l
29-06-2008, 14:06
The ST 4 doors seem quite popular and the old saphs sold so if there is a market i can see there being a 4 door
why leave a big gap for VW to fill eh

Looks nice though not for me (the green is cool )

L8R Bill

Craig m
29-06-2008, 14:19
The ST 4 doors seem quite popular
L8R Bill


Have a 5 door ST myself as it is a more practicable car when you have a youngish family ;)

rwdrs
29-06-2008, 15:48
The ST 4 doors seem quite popular and the old saphs sold so if there is a market i can see there being a 4 door
why leave a big gap for VW to fill eh

Looks nice though not for me (the green is cool )

L8R Bill

ST maybe, but the so-called Ultimate Focus has to be a 2–door, the lines are better for one thing, and it's supposed to be a "road-going" WRC Focus

mk1gaz
29-06-2008, 17:01
I see the price is set to be around £25k

:eek: :eek: :eek: and worth about 5 grand 5 years later !!!!!!!!! :D

oldskooljoe
29-06-2008, 18:02
I wouldn't get rid of a mk1/mk2 escort,to get the new focus RS,but i like the look of the new RS and i think it will be a very good car to drive if ford get it right:D

And i dont think they will go down in price in a few years time,look at the first focus RS,very hard to find a decent one now and if you do,it will be worth a bit,so i would keep hold of a new focus RS,if you were pleased with it !!!

Joe

Banishit
29-06-2008, 18:58
just saw the Signal green one on the front of the new autoexpress NICE

roths
29-06-2008, 22:00
Yeah, I like it Brian....it could persuade me to sell the Mk 2....but I'd still have a sizeable chunk of ££££ to find!

Better keep on with the Lottery!

Simon
:D

rwdrs
29-06-2008, 22:15
Yeah, I like it Brian....it could persuade me to sell the Mk 2....but I'd still have a sizeable chunk of ££££ to find!

Better keep on with the Lottery!

Simon
:D

Like I say, you're selling your RS to give the proceeds directly to Mr Brown.

Good luck with the Lottery, don't want a finance advisor do you:rolleyes: :D ;)

roths
29-06-2008, 23:20
I can't see the Depreciation on one of these mirroring mainstream models....as someone said earlier..original Focus RS wasn't bad on that score....Escort Cosworth similar??....

Some interesting comments anyway..cheers guys!

:D

SRS Motorsport Models
01-07-2008, 18:57
Anyone that would sell a Classic Mark 1 or Mark 2 Escort to buy a modern RS must be out of their mind.......

roths
01-07-2008, 21:44
:rolleyes:

ian parker
02-07-2008, 21:43
i think its a great looking car. I hope when its unveiled its as aggressive as the early pics suggest, the green pics that is. The wheels DO need to be bigger and wider than the ST. The seats need to be superior to the ST and the engine needs to have more grunt. A car worthy of the RS margue...... I hope so. Will be going to the show to see the car this July, Could really be tempted. Straight into concourse:eek: Nice clean seat runners... just like Hallys:D ;)

thedman
02-07-2008, 22:32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Apm94UIAV4

Subject: NEW FORD FOCUS RS ON TRACK AS FIRST DETAILS CONFIRMED
From: "Ford, Press-Office (P.)"
Date: 12/06/2008 12:06
08/049 For immediate release
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NEW FORD FOCUS RS ON TRACK AS FIRST DETAILS CONFIRMED
BRENTWOOD, Essex , 12 June, 2008 - Ford RS is back and the all-new Focus RS is on track! An early prototype of the fastest Focus road car to date is now undergoing performance and durability testing at the challenging Nürburgring Circuit in Germany, in preparation for its launch in 2009.
The principal architect of the Focus RS project is Ford of Europe's Vehicle Line Director for Performance Vehicles, Jost Capito, whose Team RS development group were responsible for the first generation Focus RS in 2002, and more recently, the Fiesta ST and the new Focus ST.
Capito said: "The new Focus RS is as much a car for driving enthusiasts as the one before it and classic Ford RS models of the past. We're staying true to the core RS principles of a no-compromise, affordable high performance road car you can live with. The new Focus RS will have the muscles, heart and soul of a genuine RS and will be exciting to drive every day."
The all-new Focus RS features a specially developed, turbocharged version of the Duratec 2.5-litre engine, based on Focus ST, but significantly revised to generate over 280PS and more than 400 Nm of torque, thus achieving an excellent power-to-weight ratio.

Various chassis innovations, developed in conjunction with Ford's Advanced Engineering Centre in Aachen are being tuned for the new car by the Cologne-based Ford Team RS. Their overriding objective is to achieve optimized driving dynamics and on road performance through an advanced technology front-wheel drive system, combined with a limited-slip differential.
"In early prototypes based on Focus ST vehicles, the new system is more than meeting our targets for exceptional levels of traction, handling and steering," Capito added. "Given that the enthusiastic team behind the car are all performance vehicle enthusiasts, you can imagine that our standards are high."

Ford Focus - A great starting point
The standard Ford Focus is an excellent base for a high performance car - agile, responsive and stable.
While the latest Focus ST has already proved this to be the case, the new RS will take these qualities to the next level, benefitting from extensive engineering knowledge gained through the Company's highly successful Motorsport programmes, notably with the Focus World Rally Car.
"We have no doubt that we can enhance the acclaimed qualities of the already excellent Focus for an even higher performance model than the ST," Capito added. "Now, we are going through the rigorous job of proving out our technical approach in extensive testing and tuning over a variety of roads including the most demanding track in the world, the "Green Hell" that is the Nürburgring Nordschleife!"
"With two consecutive Manufacturers' World Rally Championship titles and the success of Fiesta and Focus ST models, we have the knowledge and the experience. The time is right for Ford to deliver a new high performance model for the legions of loyal Ford RS customers around Europe," Capito concluded.
The new Focus RS test and development programme is now well underway and will continue for several months, prior to the vehicle being readied for production in early 2009.
Although the internet and car magazines around the globe have continued to offer their opinions as to how the new car will look and drive, customers will get the first look at a production-intent vehicle with its world premiere at the London Motor Show in late July.
Further technical details of the all-new Focus RS will be released closer to launch

And would it make a nice garage mate for this?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/thedman74/DSCF2184.jpg
Look OK, if this was sitting next to this at my house??????????????????
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Frosticles
02-07-2008, 22:35
Ugly thing. ;)

oldskooljoe
02-07-2008, 22:37
Now...that looks stunning in them pics:cool: :cool: :cool:

hope it looks something like that!

Needs to be a rival to the new zubaru sti:D

grum
02-07-2008, 22:38
will there be an X pack version do ya think ?

:rolleyes:

stu37025
02-07-2008, 22:39
Needs to be 4WD to compete with the jap crap imo.

npikey
02-07-2008, 22:43
Should make it rwd or 4wd, it'd be a proper rs then ??