Would you buy a MKII RS2000 with a sunroof?

[GAZ W]

After just reading a post about buying a mk2 rs2000 it got me thinking about buying a mk2 with a sunroof , when i was on the lookout for a rs2000 i wanted one without ideally but wasnt a massive concern , my biggest concern was getting the most solid car my money could buy ,and then the car i currently own came up for sale complete with sunroof , at first it put me off slightly after all the people saying "dont buy one with a sunroof" but i purchased the car (sunroof and all) and to be honest the sunroof doesnt bother me at all , only thing that does bother me is the selling when/if i come to sell the car , is this the only reason sunroofed mk2's are "frowned" upon ..the resale?
So what i want to know is what are the reasons you would not buy a MKII RS2000 with a sunroof?

[Tara]

Well mine has a sunroof and i love it :bom: i think to many people worry about something that does not matter unless you are actually going to rally your car :icon12: i mean if a car is really good and someone does not buy it because someone says its got a sunroof :dontknow: more fool them IMO if it was good enough in the 80's then its good enough for me.

[Skids]

I agree with Tara
If you have a mint car for the road it doesn't matter.The days of turning Mint cars (RS2000) into rally cars has gone as they are obviously worth alot more in standrad unmollested trim.
Skids

[GAZ W]

"they are obviously worth alot more in standrad unmollested trim"

I think this quote is why alot of the people are put off with cars with sunroofs , but again if your not showing in concours why should a "sunny" bother you?

[Tara]

"they are obviously worth alot more in standrad unmollested trim"

I think this quote is why alot of the people are put off with cars with sunroofs , but again if your not showing in concours why should a "sunny" bother you?


And at the end of the day you are driving around in a 25 year old car that you should be proud of and i would not let silly little things like sunroofs and speaker holes :dontknow: put you off enjoying a good car.

[Banishit]

I dont mind it in mine

but to be honest its nothing to do with, if there is one I dont buy cars of any age with a sunroof, what I have had is my BMW's with the steel sliders, I just dont like light coming in from above simple as that

[Tara]

I dont mind it in mine

but to be honest its nothing to do with, if there is one I dont buy cars of any age with a sunroof, what I have had is my BMW's with the steel sliders, I just dont like light coming in from above simple as that



Fair comment mate but all i'm saying is you should not let things like sunroofs and speaker holes put you off buying a good car just because a few people dont like it.

[Banishit]

I understand Tara as I said I have one in mine too

[Dermot]

But surely it's more than the yes/no question?

A full length Webasto or factory fitted winding jobbie would be fine by me.

The glass panel after market yoke is not so good though imho.

[GAZ W]

"The glass panel after market yoke is not so good though imho."

For what reasons though dermot? Resale? strength of shell? leaks? originality?

Just trying to find out why sunroofs are "frowned" upon in the mk2 world.

And im glad to see there are some people willing to buy a rs2k with a sunroof

[Driver]

A mate of mine bought a mk1 mexico earlier in the year with a sunroof, he s now decided to have the roofskin replaced, the sunroof in question was an aftermarket one, which was too big for the car, it had even distorted the roof, you may have seen the car at a few shows earlier in the year, its white and had a green mexico stripe.
The only thing that puts me off about sunroofs in older cars is that they always seem to leak

[dasadrew]

When I bought my first used RS2000 in 1980 I couldn't wait to get one of those new-fangled glass sunroofs fitted! It was the thing to do at that time. I'd personally prefer an RS2000 without one now, but I don't see what's wrong with it. After all, some classic car freaks go out of their way to get a period radio and nodding dog, and a glass sunroof was a period accessory at that time.

Personally.....
if it sticks out a bit, then maybe replace it with one of the nice flush fitting ones you can get nowadays.

I would maybe think about 'camouflaging' it a bit by fitting a vinyl roof, but then I'm a BVR fan!

(PS: I'm going to be going through the same dilemma in a few months with speaker holes!)

[Judge_Fudge]

I've got a sunroof, at the time I didn't give a toss.. the car was as solid in the right places and was cheap as chips. During this summer I got a bit caught up with the "must have a mint RS" thing and decided that this winter I would have the roof re-skinned. Then I had a couple of weekends blatting around North Yorkshire's finest roads listening to the sound of twin 45's and have made the decision that a set of 4pots and a lsd would produce a much bigger grin.

Given the choice again i'd buy any Escort if it was any good or worth saving regardless of sunroof.

[Banishit]

17 votes yet nearly all the people saying anything about the topic are for it if its there

so whats the comments from the disenters ? come lets hear your opinions please

[wombat]

I've had my RS2 for nearly 20 years, no problems with the sunroof yet. Only in heavy rain does it come in thru the hinges. I have won the RSOC Concourse twice for 'Best Mk2 RS2000' even with the sunroof in.
If I found an absolute mint RS, I would think twice if it had a sunroof, but these wonderful cars are over 20 years old now and you have to expect a few mods to them. So to your poll, no it doesn't bother me that I have a sunroof in my RS2.

[ders]

I said no to sunroofs, reasons why:

had them in previous mk2`s and always leaked.
weakens the shell.
no good for track use.
dont look good.
devalues the car.

this is only my opinion, each to there own i say!

cheeRS Ders.

[MK2MADMAN]

Said NO as well.
Same as ders really,had one before,it leaked.
Also the whole roof line looks so much more better the same colour with no breaks in it.
Plus i'm planning on going down the concours route with my mex,so this is going to be a no no with me.
Why didn't ford fit em with tilt and slide ones?They were about at the time,anyone shed some light on this? Chimpy?

[lee bishop]

i have a glass pop top, but the colour of the car was fab, and the rest of the car was too good to miss out on, just because of a sunroof...... i have a folding sunroof, to have re upholstered and put in at some time, i prefer these to the glass ones, but i guess i would rather not have any.......i think

[Mr Hoarder]

I said YES to buying an RS2000 with a Sunroof in.

I prefer them without a (glass) sunroof, but my Mex had a glass roof, so did my Harrier, and my white RS2000 has a Britax weathershield vinyl sliding roof and a black vinyl (these are dealer fitted not factory, as the chassis tags say diamond white and not a vinyl roof), and my Nordic RS2 has a black vinyl. The red GP4 shell fortunately never had a sunroof.

If I was doing a concours re-build on an otherwise standard car, the glass roof would have to go. But as a weekend car / daily driver, then a glass roof wouldn't put me off.

The glass roof in my Harrier leaked like a sieve when I bought the car in 1991, so I bought a new glass sunroof from FMC for it (accessory part)enlarged the hole very slightly and - hey presto - a genuine Ford sunroof in my car.

Good S/H Roof skins are out there, so if you really HATE glass roofs, get the top re-skinned :thumbup:

[arron]

I Said NO.

No other reason than preference, I'm not into rallying or concours so from a practical sense the glass roof does not make any difference - I just don't like them.

[Skids]

obviously worth alot more in standrad unmollested trim
I meant not Rally Prepared (especially badly) when I made this statement .
I was not refering to the fitment of a sunroof.
Skids

[Deepest Blue]

I have voted yes.
I personally dislike the 'period glass' sunroofs but have always liked the Britax/Webasto fold back type. Whilst I wouldn't contemplate fitting a sunroof to the blue car - as discussed with Ders - I am seriously thinking of having a Webasto fitted to the Zetec project.
After all it didn't prove a problem to Paul Spence's car over the years !
[Apart from when it rains] :laughing8:

All down to personal preference I say!

CheeRS Neil.

[GAZ W]

Some good replys coming now for the poll ..cheers , but come on all you "no" voters lets be hearing why you dislike them so much

[Tara]

At the end of the day its what you like and not what someone else likes plus if everyone who likes a untouched concourse car well they would not be able to change the suspension, braking or tune up the engine with bigvalve heads and twin 45's :bom: as thats not how they left the factory either :geek:

[Chesney]

Mine's got a glass roof, would prefer without but it didn't stop me buying & wouldn't again.

[ders]

Deepest blue - Neil dont do it! :crybaby:

cheeRS Ders.

[lee bishop]

can you change the roof skin, without having to replace the whole structure at A,B and C posts? does it look odd afterwards, or can it be done perfectly? is this with a used roof skin, or a new item from expressed steel? mr hoarder might like to answer this for me, as he seems to mention something above, from what sounds like experience in this area..

[vinny]

i think that most people would if they had the choice buy a car without a glass sunroof, but if as been said the cars is good in all the right places then why not.
As neil has said most peoiple like the webasto roofs as they are a period thing and do look nice.
Lee......you can get a new roof fitted, i think darren at escort tec who post oh here charges about £500, and you wouldnt know the difference once it has been done.

[Mr Hoarder]

The roof skin is spot welded in the gutters and front and rear window apertures and joins at the top of the A pillar and C pillar. You don't need to touch the B pillars, as the gutters are above them.

All the spot welds get drilled out and the joins between the roof and A/C pillars needs to have the lead loading removed by heating it up (don't use a grinder, as lead dust is poisonous).

The new roof skin is removed from the doner car in the same way and then you plug weld through the spot weld holes and onto the gutters and window apertures, grind the welds flat, lead load the A/C pillar joins, prime and paint.

Sounds easy doesn't it :D:D

[dingy]

Personally had a couple, would not have anymore.

LOADS better with out

[Frosticles]

Voted yes as I've had 2 RS's with the Webasto sliding roof and have loved them both. My mex though, doesn't have a sunroof which is fine by me. Great thing about a webasto is in the summer when you're out on a hot day............Can't beat it.