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RS2000CUSTOM

22-10-2004, 19:33

As a follow on from Mr Hoarders post .............

What NEW item that you own do you consider to be the most rare or sought after RS MKII part ?

Must be New and never fitted or used.

Mine is a set of silver pinstripes and nosecone bullets for a MKII RS2000 - still in original Ford Box !

Not worth a fortune but must be rare.

dasadrew

22-10-2004, 20:00

Group 1 Air Filter Box?
Group 1 Air Filter Element?
69 Ltr Tank with all fixings?
Group 1 Dipstick?
Group 1 Dipstick Extension Tube?
Group 1 Ford Cast Exhaust Manifold (shit - fitted already!)
Group 1 Ford Exhaust system - all 3 pieces?
Ford BVR Finis 1556116?
3,54 CWP?

Dave1800BDA

22-10-2004, 20:19

New steel wheels,
CN36 tyres,
Black metal centre caps,
Black wheel nuts,
Spare wheel strap.

RS2000CUSTOM

22-10-2004, 20:26

Ooops forgot

Grp 1 Airfilter element
Boot Spoiler

Banishit

22-10-2004, 20:36

Black metal centre caps

what the std RS ones ? if so you can buy loads of them ?

Dave1800BDA

22-10-2004, 20:46

Brian, the standard STEEL wheel caps, not the alloy wheel flat type.

A bit like the standard Escort plastic centre cap, but metal.

Cheers Dave.

SIGYELLOW

22-10-2004, 23:10

New steel wheels,
CN36 tyres,
Black metal centre caps,
Black wheel nuts,
Spare wheel strap.

AAGHHHH - yep; I think you win here by a long way...

Frosticles

22-10-2004, 23:58

BDA Engine :cheers:

dingy

23-10-2004, 14:40

BDA Engine :cheers:

Nothing rare about it really, just the cost LOL

MK2MADMAN

23-10-2004, 15:16

I did once have a rs center console still in the ford box,but my ex took a dislike to all my previous ford hoard that she got rid of the lot!! Also in the collection was a set of rear quarters,a door and full set of lights.
(i have recollected them again now!!)
But i think the best bits i've got now are the rs inner wings, x pack wheels,both doors,rear panel and the 3 steering wheels in boxes :cheers:

dasadrew

23-10-2004, 15:17

Must be New and never fitted or used.

Are BDA engines like that really not rare?

RS2000CUSTOM

23-10-2004, 15:19

Methinks an "original" unrun Ford built BDA MUST be rare.

The BDA engine rebuilt is easy (relatively speaking) to get hold of but Open Wallet surgery is required !

dingy

23-10-2004, 15:41

If ford don't get a buyer for cosworth then they will be rare LOL....

Ford didn't build BDA's dave LOL

RS2000CUSTOM

23-10-2004, 15:46

Ford didn't build BDA's dave LOL

Thats why a Ford built BDA is rare ! :geek:

Dave1800BDA

23-10-2004, 17:26

Pistons, rings, big end bearings, manifolds, oil coolers, hoses the list goes on, all obsolete.

Banishit

23-10-2004, 17:28

New Nosecones seem tobe quite rare I have never seen one for sale anyway ?

RS2000CHRIS

23-10-2004, 17:31

I think the most rare part I have is a brand new full ford exhaust system never ever been fitted or used.
also have:
set of new black wheel nuts
set of new wheel centre caps
set of 7j ronal 4 spokes at dated '80'
a mint centre consul
mint fishnet seats
All the above to be fitted soon

Miniliteman

23-10-2004, 19:55

Hello,

had a look in the loft: 2 new doors, inner wings, 3 and 4-spoke steering wheel, front quarter bumpers, remote mirrors, full set of door cards, front grill with badge, bonnet, front panel, front indicators, set of locks, big bore GP1 exhaust manifold, RS type front brake pads, caps for the RS-wheel with RSlogo, etc ... boring isn't it?

Due to a new BDE, all the above is for sale, pics available at request.
Genuine RS-people only please.

Grtz, Leon.

Dave1800BDA

23-10-2004, 20:05

Front grill, nice, I also have brand new old style F.O.R.D front grill ready to go on the car.

Leon, BDE very nice, you also have PM.

cheers Dave.

Banishit

23-10-2004, 20:32

Miniliteman

Very nice selection there Leon

any chance of 6 years credit LOL

RS2000CUSTOM

23-10-2004, 20:48

Leon

It must be interest free though !

Banishit

23-10-2004, 20:56

Cant you just feel the rattling of Keyboards and e mails going across the sea LOL

For the few amount of people that actually post on here theres enough stuff to build a couple of full cars :cheers:

MK2MADMAN

23-10-2004, 23:49

Hmmmm i know Brian.
It a shame that Ford crushed all the panel making equipment huh!
Just makes me so jealous of my mate who has a poxy MG Midget,and he can order 'ANYTHING' for his car brand new.
Why was this!! Didn't ford have the foresight to sell on the presses for the enthuisiats.I guess they wanted us to buy the newer models and forget that the mk1 and mk2 won the wrc for all those years!
Anyone have any info on this? What can we do about it? Sure there are a few people making specialised bits and pieces,but when my mate says that he can order a new mg shell if he wants to i almost keel over with envy!!

SIGYELLOW

24-10-2004, 04:09

I wondered that too - though I am glad you can get pretty good quality pattern panels etc. I'd rather spend a few grand (£10K+ say) restoring a nice standard RS MKII, (Gen Ford parts or not) than indulging Ford's wishes and spending similar (perhaps a little more) on a new Focus, Mondeo etc. But I guess that's a different argument and quite probably people like me are responsible for Ford's current global predicament and hence they find themselves flogging off Cosworth and Jaguar F1.....But then again maybe car design really was at it's peak in the 1960s & 1970s???

dasadrew

24-10-2004, 10:01

... that the mk1 and mk2 won the wrc for all those years!

History never was my favorite subject, but didn't the WRC only start in about 1975? As far as I can remember, only once did a MkII win a WRC. Not sure wheteher there were Manufacturers' championships, or was it just drivers? Was there a world championship class before the WRC?

Considering the wins by Stratos, 034, Fiat 131 and Co. I'd prefer to be looking for Ford Escort parts!

'tis a shame about the moulds but, before Ford is criticised, it might be worth knowing if they were offered for auction etc. and no-one was interested! They were probably sold to Steptoe & Son who thought the raw metal was worth more melted down!

MK2MADMAN

24-10-2004, 12:26

You know what i mean chimpy chops,escorts dominated the rally scene for years.And no,history obviously wasn't my fav subject either! :cyclopsani:

dasadrew

24-10-2004, 12:47

Hey Madman!

in actual fact the question did have a background - When I lived in GB I knew all the stories too of how successful the Escort was. On the continent, however, it's hardly known amongst the general populace. In fact, when you mention RS2000 the thing which springs to mind is always the droop snoot (which the rally cars didn't have!). So a few months ago I went on to the Internet to gather all of the famous Escort world history to have it at hand and ..... I couldn't find any!

Oh sure, they were up at the top on the GB rallys for years and years, but if you look at the rallys of other countries, then their own national products are also at the top of their own national events (Fiat 131, Alpine Renault A110 etc.)

So I'm genuinely interested to see if the Escort "world success" story is basically a UK journalism/publicity creation. Let's face it, Volkswagen have us believe that the GTI was the first series saloon with 16 valves (Triumph Dolomite Sprint?) and Audi have us believe they did the first production road-going 4WD saloon (Jensen Interceptor FF?). So did Ford have everyone believe the Escort was a world dominating rally car? Answers on a postcard ......

I know it all sounds like blasphemy, but any facts are most welcome!

RS1800

24-10-2004, 19:29

good post this one
I have
Custom sticker for dash gen ford
bda 8 blade fan
bda valves plus guides gen ford
Rs 1800 exhaust manifold
pair door skins
pair wings front panel
side repeater lamps as RS1800 press car
RS1600 service history book unstamped
also hand book that goes with it.
Twin cam manual
crossmember bolts gen ford
nuts that go on stut top gen ford
i will check in the works

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Mr Hoarder

25-10-2004, 09:43

That's a good question Dave.

I reckon the rarest new old stock parts I've got are the alloy carpet trims still in the packets. I've never seen another set for sale.

Anyone else got some ?

FoMoCo

25-10-2004, 10:13

I have two carpet rails in the bags,
Also new complete exhaust inc manifold,
heater decal,
seat belts,
air box two fixing,
ate servo,
full decal set in black,
nose cone brackets (dont even have a part number)

And a couple of bits i dont need
RS1800 engine bay loom,
and the side repeaters.

But i would say new trim has got to be the Holy Grail of unused parts.

cheeRS Gary.

Chrisbo

25-10-2004, 13:46

Mr Hoarder

25-10-2004, 14:56

How about a cardboard "Sump guard" - it wouldn't stop a pebble, but these were fitted to Escorts from the factory - I think most of the cars had them removed on the first service as if they got wet they would be hanging off the bottom of the chassis rails like a bit of paper mache :D

Anyway I've got one still with the Pt No sticker on it :rolleyes:

SIGYELLOW

26-10-2004, 11:02

Crushed the body part presses???? Was there not a rumour going around a good few years after the MK2 went out of production that you could still get new body shells from Brazil or South Africa or somewhere or was that just wishful thinking on someones part????

This is true as much of what gets discontinued in Europe usually ends up in continents like South America or Asia. Brazil is a good example, and I'm sure some of the rear wheel drive Escort manufacturing equipment was shipped out there in the early 80s. A recent example of this type of thing was the old Ford Cargo plant at Langley, Bucks. When this closed in 1993, all the presses etc were shipped out to Brazil and now the good old Cargo is the No.1 selling truck in South America - and long may it be too!!

RUDDY

26-10-2004, 12:34

I believe the presses were scrapped as by the end of production they were about worn out , you may find earlier pressings have sharper and cleaner lines. BL donated all its presses to the British Heritage company, thats why you can still get new shells for TR6's and MG's etc .

Chrisbo

26-10-2004, 15:36

So early type doors won't fit later type cars as the swage lines will be different.That explains the panel fit on mine then :geek: :geek: Seriously though does anybody know for sure what happened to the original presses or is it all just rumours???

:cheers:

Chris.

RS2000CUSTOM

26-10-2004, 16:00

Frosticles

26-10-2004, 21:41

Any of you going to sell any of these parts to people who need them or are they just going to sit in attics etc??

Mex 1t

26-10-2004, 23:16

kev most parts will sit in attics till they sell their car and then some may see ebay these days (it used to be the car boots) to see if they can raise enough cash to buy the wife a meal !!!!!!!!!!! bought plenty cheap stuff on car boots / small auto jumbles

would be nice to see somebody start up shell reconditioning business for standard RS shells , have thought about it myself but costs involved would make it uneconomical , may be in a few more years when i have won the lotto :bigsmurf: :geek:

new parts where do you start still got plenty but not for sale !!!!!!!! at any money will need to buy the wife a meal in 2020 :geek:

ders

27-10-2004, 02:20

Someone mention a new spare whell strap?
http://www.redslate.co.uk/upload/pics/gvc6%20007.jpg
cheeRS Ders.

SIGYELLOW

27-10-2004, 10:13

Seriously though does anybody know for sure what happened to................................................

As for most things MKII a lot of information is :-

Guess work

Old Wives Tales

"Handed Down" Information

Is there anyone out there who can give definitive information ? - who knows ?

That's true mate, but just been looking in the Sporting Escort Guide by Graham Robson and he states that the Saarlouis presses were ripped out and re-jigged in readiness for the MKIII. So anyones guess, though I swear some equipment was shipped out to South America at some stage...though where this was sourced is anyones guess of course...