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Messcort mk2

02-09-2006, 23:41

Hey, I'm Max, I'm 19 and this is my first restoration and my first thread thing. I am doing a motorsport engineering course at college and my teacher has kindly let me use the workshops so I can do my car. This is the only 2 door non sunroof mk2 I could afford so I bought it not knowing how bad it was. As you will see from the photos I have to replace pretty much everything as this one looks like it spent all 28 years in the sea! My intentions with this car are to restore it with the grp4 mods and stick a vauxhall xe or a 2.0 zetec in and then hill climb/sprint it. Hope you like these photos, any advice or critisisms (constructive ones) are appreciated so maybe I can learn from them.

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Banishit

03-09-2006, 00:18

Hi Max

welcome, and well done looks like your doing a great job there, only critique is get a decent camera LOL those camera phone pics are crap ;)

Cheers
Brian

PS look forward to the next installments

nice to see all the bracing prior to removing most of the floor ! lots missing too

dasadrew

03-09-2006, 07:56

That's some very professional and neat looking welding going on there.

ian parker

03-09-2006, 08:25

Hi Max, looks superb work up to now, keep going, have you considered a colour yet ??:confused:

GAZ W

03-09-2006, 09:39

Well my first bit of advice is never to let a car with a sunroof let you be put off with buying it , surely it would be easier to replace a roof than it would to replace every panel on the car:confused:

Oh and that is somme very good work you have done up to now..keep going

roths

03-09-2006, 09:59

looks good..and VERY familiar!!

graham John

03-09-2006, 10:37

Hi Max, welcome and good luck with the restro, if you get stuck, this is the place for the answers,

cheeRS

Dave1800BDA

03-09-2006, 10:38

Hi Max looks good, its nice to see the younger generation having an interest in the old cars, keep the good work up.

cheers Dave.

Frosticles

03-09-2006, 12:18

Hi and welcome, You're certainly a brave young man!!!! The best of luck with it. :D

RS2000&MEXICO

03-09-2006, 13:02

hi and welcome mate..

the car looks well and by the looks of it will be a nice mk2 at the end...

cheeRS

lathamescortmk2

03-09-2006, 13:12

where you doing motorsport engineering? i start on the 29th at cov ;)

dasadrew

03-09-2006, 14:03

just looking at those (awful :D ) pics again and am even more impressed. I've only just twigged that you're 4-linking and towering it etc.

There are some very nice box sections going in there.

Doing all that work, why not keep the powertrain Ford and try to set a specific target - I'm sure there are some historic car classes in UK, non?

Dig out the rule book and try to go the original route (I don't mean bufty and NOS stuff!)

Then a nice tasty British Airways livery ...........

Billy Xpack

03-09-2006, 15:08

Hi Max
looking good best of luck with your project

Messcort mk2

03-09-2006, 21:13

mullrallying

03-09-2006, 21:15

Hey lathamescortmk2, i'm doing motorsport engineering at Lackham College in Wiltshire. I've just finished my first year and start college again on the 11th. Yea its a bit of a project, i'm just looking forward to going back to college and get back to work! I was thinking of the black and white shell colours or just a flat white, not set in stone though. Any ideas? Cheers Max

Max you should just take my suggestion and paint it black and white as it will look good in shell replica colours. Good luck with the car and hopefully see you on mull for the Tour of Mull rally in october.

bigjohnie

03-09-2006, 21:53

im well impressed max your a brave lad for taking it on but you have done really really well so far keep us posted and good luck kid

mkIIvan

04-09-2006, 20:57

That is one mega rough shell, but looks like you have it under control.
Good luck.
hmmm makes me want to start my shell now, but got no elec. in my shed!!
anyone want to help!!?? lol

RabC-RS2-77

13-09-2006, 13:29

I'VE finally got round to reading this thread,
the work wats going into that car is un believable.
i'd take my hat off to you, young MAX if i had one on, lol..:D
top job, keep it going max-lad..:yeah:

(keep them pics coming.)

hally

18-09-2006, 14:04

hey max is that a mt75 gearbox sat in it? what motor you putting in?

topaz

18-09-2006, 16:54

try reading his first post :p

Robb

18-09-2006, 19:14

Nice work there looks like your flying along keep the pics coming

MK11 VAN but got no elec. in my shed!!
anyone want to help!!?? lol
where abouts are you in Wales ?

Messcort mk2

18-09-2006, 21:05

Yeap thats an MT75, aparantly it was the first road gearbox to have a synchro in reverse so you can select reverse at 25mph!!! Don't know why I want to but yea. I didn't have a type 9 so I used this. I haven't seen an MT75 in an escort before does anyone know if it has been done before? Is it better than a type 9? Yea I think i'm gunna go for an XE beacause its cheaper than the rest and easier to get power for less money. Sorry to the purests! I have some more pics on the way, i'm just waiting for my mate to download them from his camera! Max

hally

19-09-2006, 08:42

sorry, neil you know what im like i only look at the pictures.......not very good at the whole reading thing lol:D, as spency kindly pointed out to every one yesterday!

Mex 1t

19-09-2006, 22:36

Messcort mk2

07-11-2006, 22:36

Sorry I haven't posted any progress for a while, I haven't done much to be honest. Here are a few photos of my English axle. I bought a Watts linkage to fit it but I can't put it on with my axle brace so I've modified it to suit...take a look!

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Dave1800BDA

07-11-2006, 23:16

thats it keep that welder going Max, So you havent done anything else to the shell at all? Dont stop;)

Messcort mk2

08-11-2006, 14:50

Well I have done bits but not anything major. My college has moved sites..(now at castle combe)!!! but my escort is at the old site, it should be being moved tommorow and work can get under way again!

76mex

08-11-2006, 20:01

looks like the old girl needs a bit of work but at least you have got good taste when it comes to buying a car forget the corsas and saxos nice one:notworthy:

Messcort mk2

08-11-2006, 20:04

I really couldn't been seen dead in some sad boy saxo, always been into old rally and race cars. Yea does need some work huh, will be(hopefully) getting on with it tommorow

Messcort mk2

28-11-2006, 19:06

Got a few more things done, still with the crappy phone camera...sorry. I've started on the drivers side of the car now and cut out the chassis rail but found I had to cut out loads of the old one due to it being so rusty so having to make a section of chassis rail to join the new one to the old good bit. Above the leaf spring hanger the floor was really rusty so I've replaced a section and red oxided the welding.

hally

29-11-2006, 08:14

keep them coming! i thought you would of give it up......

RabC-RS2-77

29-11-2006, 09:03

WELLDONE, max.. keep it the good work up, like !

graham John

30-11-2006, 19:39

beyond the point of no return.....

keep at it,

cheeRS

Messcort mk2

30-11-2006, 19:51

Here are some pics of the work I have done today....yes still same crappy phone camera! Made a chassis rail extention and fitted the new chassis rail. Also had a rust hole in the chassis rail in the engine bay which someone had tack a plate over so rectified that...this bit looks crap and will be done better tommorow.

Messcort mk2

30-11-2006, 19:52

And some more...

Frosticles

30-11-2006, 22:14

I am scared just looking at that :eek:

Dave1800BDA

30-11-2006, 23:30

hats off to you, great stuff and keep the good work up.:D

GAZ W

01-12-2006, 20:56

Big Big respect to you mate for keeping at it im sure most would have thrown the towel in before now:) :)

Messcort mk2

01-12-2006, 23:03

Big Big respect to you mate for keeping at it im sure most would have thrown the towel in before now:) :)

Yes, the amount of times I've thought about it!!! Should have a full day from 9-6 working on it on monday so I should have some good pics for you lot...if not then I'm slacking!

ian parker

02-12-2006, 14:09

keep going, i think its fantastic what your doing, WILL be a NEW car when your finished:eek: :p

Messcort mk2

04-12-2006, 22:07

Here is what I have done today...got the crossbrace thing in, and welded in the new (rear) floor pan and red oxided it. Got some more rust repair on the rear arch done and pretty much finished the big hole in the front chassis rail...enjoy!

Messcort mk2

04-12-2006, 22:08

And the rest of them....

paul spence

05-12-2006, 09:19

keep up the good work young man,
you must have a canny set of knackers on ya.:D

Banishit

05-12-2006, 09:23

:occasion9: keep up the good work young man,
you must have a canny set of knackers on ya.:D

PMSL

hally

05-12-2006, 13:13

taking shape now son! keep it up and keep posting them pics!................

Messcort mk2

11-12-2006, 21:35

I managed to get the escort to castle combe today which I was delighted about!! Was really annoyed today when I found out the shell spent all this weekend outside without a cover on!!!:mad: and it had grown a few more patches of rust!! But now its at combe, here is a couple of general pics of it where i'll be working on it. Its hidden away in what is meant to be the machine shop. Oh yea, got the front floor pan in but haven't got any pics yet.

Dave1800BDA

11-12-2006, 22:22

looks like a nice workshop its in:D

Messcort mk2

11-12-2006, 22:28

looks like a nice workshop its in:D

Thats the machine shop!! I'll have some pics of the main workshop on Thursday or summit. One of the other students had a punto in the other day as the head gasket had gone on it, so they sorted that out and wanted to start it but left the rocker cover off and the spray bar!!! as you can imagine when they started to fire it up a 15ft jet of oil spurted up onto the ceiling covering quite a few people....so apart from the oil patch on the roof!! its an immaculate and really good facility.

wiggyrs

11-12-2006, 22:33

Plenty of room there mate :D

taffr

11-12-2006, 23:18

keep up the good work young man,
you must have a canny set of knackers on ya.:D

THIS MAN HAS A MASSIVE SET OF BOLLOCKS :D WELL DOME MATE

Messcort mk2

13-12-2006, 19:19

I've got more done on my escort but it doesn't look like Ive done alot....I've flipped the car onto its side...(yea haven't got a roll over jig)....and have been welding up everything!! Chassis rail to floor pan and floot pan to prop tunnel, theres a load of welding there....I've also put in the front drivers side floor pan. There is a couple of pics of the workshop...got one of it showing the rx7, davrian and a chevette hs :D

Messcort mk2

13-12-2006, 19:24

A few more of the escort

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Dave1800BDA

13-12-2006, 19:37

well done, getting better all the time:D

like the Chevette in the pics,:D

GAZ W

13-12-2006, 19:44

Its certainly coming on now , keep up the good work and the pics:)

taffr

13-12-2006, 21:38

looking good mate keep the dreaded rust at bay , keep the time spent on the job to a maximum , might not look as if you are getting anywhere then all af a sudden it will come together :D

hally

14-12-2006, 07:39

looking sweeeeettttttttttt,keep it coming!

graham John

14-12-2006, 12:41

A few more of the escort
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that roll cage looks fragile ... ;)

:rolleyes:

keep at it, it will be worthwhile,

cheeRS

Deepest Blue

14-12-2006, 13:12

like the Chevette in the pics,:D

Me too :wink2:

Deepest Blue

14-12-2006, 13:14

keep up the good work young man,
you must have a canny set of knackers on ya.:D

Ditto! :D

Messcort mk2

20-01-2007, 19:49

Right.....having got back into the swing of things after new years and autosport I've had some time to do some more on the escort. I've cut out the old (rusty) outer sill, rust treated and primered the existing bit and tacked in my new inner sill. Should have the new outer sill on next week sometime. Comments and critisisms as usual please :)

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Messcort mk2

20-01-2007, 19:51

Oh just noticed the four link box visable from underneath...its not its resting place it just fell down :D

grum

21-01-2007, 02:13

looking good :)

oldskooljoe

21-01-2007, 12:04

looking good,keep it up:salute:

cheeRSjoe

RStu

21-01-2007, 12:15

Doing very well there Max, fair play to you and well done ;)

mike77cos

21-01-2007, 12:40

I like this a lot, keep up the good work

Messcort mk2

22-01-2007, 21:11

More progress......New outer sills in and all the box section bracing is now mostly taken out

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oldskooljoe

22-01-2007, 21:17

good work:D

Dave1800BDA

22-01-2007, 21:52

getting there:D good stuff

hally

23-01-2007, 13:40

doing really well there max!..............

Messcort mk2

23-01-2007, 21:29

Few pics of the removal of the heater bowl and scuttle pannel. Could anyone tell me what to do with the heater bowl? I'm not going to have a heater and I've heard from somewhere that I block it off...do I just stick a pannel over the circular hole, and if so is there any point in having the holes in that scuttle pannel? Is there one I can get with no holes in? Thanks Max

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paul andrews

23-01-2007, 22:00

just read this soe excellent work there m8,keep it up bud:)

Skids

24-01-2007, 13:23

Max
Firstly great work you are doing there.I thought I had alot on with my shell rebuild.
IMOO I would have left the heater bowl in place and capped off the hole.I don't think they look right with them removed.Mine hasn't got a heater in it either by the way.
Skids

mike77cos

24-01-2007, 19:35

love it

oldskooljoe

24-01-2007, 22:46

great work keep it up:D

cheers joe

Messcort mk2

25-01-2007, 19:13

Ok got some more done. Thanks fo rthe advice but talked to my tutor at college and rekons it'll be a cool place to have my brake reservoirs, so going to do that. Mounted one of my doors to see how it fits so I can get the spacing for the wing, because I have got new wings and mounting rails. I took that photo before I finished getting the door straight so thats why it may look ****y.

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jim gracie

25-01-2007, 19:28

Coming along that !You must have some set of nuts,massive resto project that,you will serve your apprenticeship rebuilding her,well done!! ;)

Messcort mk2

25-01-2007, 19:30

Ha yea, well I hoping it will be a driving C.V! After I've finished my course and looking for a job in the motorsport industry I'll have a few pics of the resto stapled to my C.V

grum

25-01-2007, 21:40

send it to Prodrive - Dave Richards loves an old mk 2 ;)

RabC-RS2-77

25-01-2007, 21:46

keep up the goodwork !;)

Messcort mk2

30-01-2007, 22:54

Got some more done on the escort and some more pics if anyone wants to see. On that front splash shelid I've made up some pannels as the replacement pannel didn't cover what I had to cut out for the rust. I've butt welded them together so that i'll be able to grind down those welds and once painted will look as normal.

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grum

30-01-2007, 23:41

nice bit of welding there :thumbright:

Banishit

31-01-2007, 00:08

Make sure you dont throw away the Heater Bubble as they are hard to get decent ones, and yours looks in good nik too ;)

your doing a great job keep the piccies coming

Messcort mk2

31-01-2007, 14:07

Ah yea I may have to retrieve that from the bin then :banghead: It did have a small rust the size of a 50p piece tho. How much are they if they're mint? as I may consider repairing it and selling it.

graham John

31-01-2007, 14:50

they're not wortha fortune but can realise some handy cash, seen one recently with the scuttle for £50, which was in good condition

cheeRS

Messcort mk2

31-01-2007, 22:37

Yea thanks...Its worth repairing then, got the scuttle too but it has spot weld holes in all the way down its length. Does anyone know what kind of gearbox tunnels are available? I mean will an MT75 fit in a 'large gearbox tunnel' that is sold everywhere or will I have to custom make one? Thanks

pushrod

01-02-2007, 08:02

Don't know dick about gearbox tunnels but the rest of the motor is coming along well.

I take it because it's an official project all the nice things like costs and manhours are being recorded.

Most people know roughly what their car stands them but I would love to see a breakdown of the costs and hours for the likes of a major resto, such as this one.

Good luck.

Messcort mk2

02-02-2007, 18:13

Got costs all recorded with recipts but man hours i'm ubsure of. All I know is that I've spent bludy ages on it!! And will spend load more time on it yet!!

rwdrs

02-02-2007, 19:57

I used to live just down the road from you, between MSN and Shepton Mallet;)
I have to say you could have hardly picked a much more ambitious project, and you must have nerves of steel (no pun intended) as there's one hell of a lot of material that needed removing & replacing.

This is one very fine and interesting thread, I myself have never had the luxury of being able to stick one of my motors in a garage and just come back to it when I've the time and interest, which doubtless makes quite a bit of difference.

Nevertheless, I think everybody on here takes there hat off to you, we love the pictures, keep 'em coming:D

rwdrs

02-02-2007, 22:45

Ask this bloke for plans for a tunnel he's used the T5 Cossie box!

http://www.mk2cosworth.nl/hoofdpagina.htm

Messcort mk2

03-02-2007, 23:56

Got that splash sheild all ground down and red oxided, you can still see where I've welded which is a bit annoying, tried for ages and got it the best I could, but your not going to see it, toying with sticking some filler in it but wondering if its actually worth it. Got my inner arch all ground down and red oxided, again the welds are visable but seeing and there is a ally outer arch on top of it I didn't see the point in making it super smooth. As you can see from the last photo I'm starting to get a plate in to strengthen up the jacking point and to join the inner body to the new outer sill.

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RabC-RS2-77

04-02-2007, 18:07

LOOK'N THE BUISNESS NOW, pal...
love them arches !

Messcort mk2

04-02-2007, 19:26

Oh yea by the way what is that sealer stuff you see on most escorts around all the pannel seams, the stuff you can paint onto and does anyone know where they sell it, can I get it from a place like halfords or somewhere?

rwdrs

04-02-2007, 19:55

Use Sikkens or 3M seam sealer, that's one thing you don't want to scrimp on.
Certainly don't buy the stuff from Halfords, (never seen the stuff in there myself anyway). Get one of the lads here to sort you some out, I'm surprised your college there can't sort some out:confused:

Anyway keep plugging away and don't forget to post up your progress.

Cheers

Messcort mk2

06-02-2007, 22:38

Riiiight, some more welding and some more photos. That inner arch has taken so much time to do, can't believe how long its taken. Still got to do the other side :eek:
Had to put a strip all the inner length of the arch as the seam had rotted away and I cut it out. There was two bits that joined the bottom of the arch to the floor that had rotted through and have been replaced and a section at the back of the arch going into the boot area.

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Messcort mk2

12-02-2007, 21:58

More done, check it out

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RS2000CUSTOM

12-02-2007, 22:29

Looks like you getting used to welding now - lol lol lol lol

Keep up the good work :dizzy:

marky4

12-02-2007, 22:35

some very nice work there m8 :)

hally

13-02-2007, 07:45

well done keep the pics coming!

rs new boy

13-02-2007, 10:34

good work mate
what colour you doing it ??

Messcort mk2

13-02-2007, 21:05

I want it plain with no stickers or decals but not definate on the colour as yet, any suggestions?

hally

14-02-2007, 10:06

white always looks good, dark colours show dent/ripples alot more!

rs new boy

14-02-2007, 13:36

:D white always looks good, dark colours show dent/ripples alot more!

mate you trying to say it will dents and ripples lol

macjam

14-02-2007, 13:55

Olympic Blue

dasadrew

14-02-2007, 13:56

Nice weld penetratrion - looks almost TIG quality. What gas and wire are you using?

hally

14-02-2007, 15:13

mmmmmm nice PENETRATION...........:D

Messcort mk2

14-02-2007, 21:10

I think its 0.8 or 1.0 not sure though. And its Inert rather than Argon if thats what you mean. Seen a few in plain red and thats my fav so far..

rwdrs

14-02-2007, 21:28

If you're rebuilding a 70's car then paint it in a 70's colour, Signal yellow or signal green or signal amber;););)

Dave1800BDA

14-02-2007, 21:33

I think its 0.8 or 1.0 not sure though. And its Inert rather than Argon if thats what you mean. Seen a few in plain red and thats my fav so far..

good choice:D

dasadrew

14-02-2007, 21:48

I think its 0.8 or 1.0 not sure though. And its Inert rather than Argon if thats what you mean. Seen a few in plain red and thats my fav so far..

Sorry, I meant what material wire - stainless, mild steel etc.

Also, the gas has to be inert (that's the idea!) I was just wondering if it was an Argon, Argon-Mix or CO.

rwdrs

14-02-2007, 22:05

Sorry, I meant what material wire - stainless, mild steel etc.

Also, the gas has to be inert (that's the idea!) I was just wondering if it was an Argon, Argon-Mix or CO.

Yeah, Argon is inert, what the Germans call Schutzgasschweißen, and your Argon's the Schutzgas. I've never used stainless at work, surely that's for welding steel with high chrome content like X2CrNi12.

dasadrew

14-02-2007, 22:26

I've never used stainless

Me neither, but those weld beads look so shhiiinnneeeyyyy!

dasadrew

14-02-2007, 22:29

what the Germans call Schutzgasschweißen

... and what the Engländer call "MIG" for Metal-Inert-Gas :D

rwdrs

14-02-2007, 22:32

... and what the Engländer call "MIG" for Metal-Inert-Gas :D Oh right!:rolleyes:

I'll explain it then to all our non German speaking colleagues Schutz = Protection
ergo being protected from that naughty Sauerstoff um Oxygen :rolleyes::D:D:D

as ze Engländer says:alien:

Frosticles

14-02-2007, 22:43

I use "Pub Gas" to weld with :D

rwdrs

14-02-2007, 22:53

I use "Pub Gas" to weld with :D

Used a few grinding discs did we:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Messcort mk2

15-02-2007, 00:06

Yea Mig whatever I dunno! Forgot to upload the pics of the lastest work on the heater bowl. Filled in the holes that were drilled through to get the heater bowl spot welds off and then ground them flat, then wire wheeled and primered the area to stop it rusting. Also ordered a large gearbox tunnel from Peter Lloyd and it arrived today so hopefully going to see how that fits tomorrow.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC00231.jpg

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Frosticles

15-02-2007, 19:51

Used a few grinding discs did we:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Actually yes. Does using the propper stuff make for a flatter weld??

rwdrs

15-02-2007, 21:12

Actually yes. Does using the propper stuff make for a flatter weld??

Don't know only ever used the proper stuff;)

As there's Co2 in "Pub Gas" that'll do the same job, but the proper mix gives a better burn, and the right temp, i.e. less splattery (Bird shit welds).

Frosticles

15-02-2007, 21:18

(Bird shit welds).
You seen my welding then :eek:

rwdrs

15-02-2007, 21:32

You seen my welding then :eek:

Not yet, but maybe I should weld up me own mota up Guv:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Messcort mk2

15-02-2007, 21:43

Got that gearbox tunnel in place but there is alot of chopping to do to get it in properly. I'm worried about it being too wide, its so wide that its touching a pre drilled hole in the bulkhead. I was wondering what it was for and what does everyone else do if this happens all the time?

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/untitled.jpg

RS2000CUSTOM

15-02-2007, 21:57

its so wide that its touching a pre drilled hole in the bulkhead. I was wondering what it was for

The hole is for your steering column !

Small hole with captive bolt underneath large hole is for column mounting bracket

graham John

16-02-2007, 18:24

The hole is for your steering column !

Small hole with captive bolt underneath large hole is for column mounting bracket

correct.

progress coming along nicely though, well done,

cheeRS

Messcort mk2

26-02-2007, 18:52

Spent today working on the Escort...got that gearbox tunnel tacked in place and the 4 link box tack in place for the second time...take a look at the pics

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taffr

26-02-2007, 19:00

looking good boyo :D

76mex

26-02-2007, 20:05

keep up the good young un thats coming along a treat:)

ian parker

26-02-2007, 20:11

theres some mega work going into this car, gonna be superb, credit to you.;)

hally

27-02-2007, 07:35

well done, keep them piccies coming though!

Dave1800BDA

27-02-2007, 08:45

coming along great, the holes are gradually disapearing, keep it up:D

Messcort mk2

21-03-2007, 23:46

Got some more done on the escort, haven't really got that much done but here are some pics. I need to get that door to fit propery before I can mount the wings and was wondering what it could be....are hinge pins available for the doors as there is quite alot of play in them. It could be that the shell has bent but I had a load of bracing in it and have taken some measurements and it doesn't seem out..

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/escortnew1.jpg

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marky4

22-03-2007, 06:33

nice work coming along nicely :)

paul spence

22-03-2007, 09:09

ive found a door knocker for you;) ,keep up the good work

rs new boy

22-03-2007, 15:52

door pins £3 plus postage on flee bay:)

RabC-RS2-77

22-03-2007, 16:13

KEEP UP THE GOODWORK !
"thats top of the pops!"..............;)

hally

22-03-2007, 16:18

looking great..................

Messcort mk2

22-03-2007, 22:18

This is what I have done today....The turret doesn't fit the inside contour of the arch very well, is this a problem?....I've seen loads like it! I was going to fill in the gap with a slither of sheet metal, is this common or have i fitted them wrong? :crybaby:I've measured it against the other one which I was told was correct and its pretty much bang on the same. And just ordered those pins...hope it rectifies my door sag problem.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/Escortnew121.jpg

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Messcort mk2

27-03-2007, 23:09

Here is some progress...getting to really enjoy doing this escort now, its starting to look a bit like a car!!! Still have to sort out that hole on the rear and sort out the wing to the front valance bit, but had it tacked there for the wing mounting rail...enjoy

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC00290.jpg

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Dave1800BDA

27-03-2007, 23:21

youre right it does look like a car now, glad youre enjoying it thats half the battle, keep up the good work its looking great:D

grum

27-03-2007, 23:43

great update messcort :)

looking really good now - did you get over the turret problem ?

Banishit

28-03-2007, 00:06

well matie, looking really well now, shows what can be done from a really rusty starter

RS2000&MEXICO

28-03-2007, 07:25

your getting there m8....looking good:D

Nipper

28-03-2007, 07:42

Fair play to you ;)
Lots of work going on in there. Well done, lookin good :cool: .

hally

28-03-2007, 08:33

looking good, really into this resto........

Messcort mk2

28-03-2007, 21:35

Yea got it sorted...I think...I hope!! Had the local news around our college to do a report, but I doubt the beast will have an appearance :(. Oh yea got those door pins and it has helped the probelm but hasn't made to door fit, which is rather worrying!! I think it probably because I welded the outer sill in too high, I welded it over a lip and I think, now, part of the sill was the lip if you understand me. Any suggestions or do I need to rip that sill off and get another one?

Messcort mk2

30-03-2007, 23:27

Got a bit more done, the other 4-link box is now in place and tacked, the tatty welding on the jacking point will be rectified!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC00313.jpg

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Messcort mk2

15-06-2007, 23:04

Haven't posted in a while as I haven't got that much work done:o

I've made a rose jointed strut brace for it as part of some coursework at college, here are some photos.

Some proper work is getting under way as from Monday. Will keep you posted.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC00431.jpg

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Oand have a pic of it out in the road at college

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC00344.jpg

RS2000&MEXICO

15-06-2007, 23:06

is was only thinking last night how this car was coming on.....looking well there and some good welding aswell.....top job m8...credit to you:)

taffr

15-06-2007, 23:09

wicked arch kit :D

Dave1800BDA

15-06-2007, 23:14

credit to you, well done

oldskooljoe

15-06-2007, 23:43

well done,looking good:cool:

joe:bigsmurf:

macjam

29-07-2007, 20:53

Any more news on this, nice to see another MK2 saved.

hally

30-07-2007, 14:09

:D nice one! i was begining to think you had give up!

Messcort mk2

28-08-2007, 20:58

Pleased to see that you lot are still interested in my Escort.....Moved house and have just had the internet working so that would explain my absence...Found out yesterday that it has finished being sandblasted...and I'm due to pick it up sometime next week. The chassis work is completed but still have a few strengthening parts to weld on and alot of fitting and finishing. Will have updates as soon as I can get my hands on it!

hally

29-08-2007, 07:41

nice one!

graham John

29-08-2007, 08:38

keep em coming,

cheeRS

oldskooljoe

12-03-2008, 21:24

Any updates on this:confused:

Hoogi

13-03-2008, 14:39

Really like it Max.........

paul spence

13-03-2008, 15:54

nice one:thumbright:

hally

14-03-2008, 08:15

nowt for awhile! hope he hasnt gave up

Messcort mk2

14-03-2008, 20:42

Fear Not!!......I haven't given up but haven't got anything done on the Escort. My Escort went to be sandblasted in June/July time and still haven't seen it. My Escort went there and as soon as it went out the workshop space has been taken up by another car! Have been really really ****ed off about the whole thing and finally hae been made a space...we went to go and pick up the trailer last week and found it broken, so have fixed it and will hopefully go to pick it up sometime next week. Still doubtfull but still trying my hardest to get it srted so I can work on it again!!!!!!!

Messcort mk2

08-05-2008, 22:07

Finally after about a year I finally have my Escort!!! Got it back to college and took some pics. Did couple hours work doing a bit of welding and stuff, got a couple plates welded in on the front suspension area. Got a little team sorted of younger students that will be working on it with me, so hopefully will see some more progress.

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RS2000&MEXICO

08-05-2008, 23:02

that don't look to bad......keep the pics comeing ;) :cool:

taffr

21-10-2008, 20:31

any news Max????

Messcort mk2

22-10-2008, 21:24

Yes there is some news!! Its still going and yes I haven't been keeping everyone posted as promised!! Have a good team working with me this year on the escort to get it completed as soon as poss. Had my rollcage through today so started fitting that. Heres my progress:

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Templates for my bulkhead:

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Roll cage going in:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC01205.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC01206.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC01207.jpg

Slightly excessive, yes, but just experimenting with milling the profile for the rollcage:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC01208.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC01209.jpg

Fits nice though:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC01210.jpg

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graham John

22-10-2008, 21:39

good to see you are back on the case Max, wondered if you had made any progress,

keep the pics coming,

cheeRS

68 Bullit

22-10-2008, 21:48

Very Impressive young man keep it up , you are learning some great Fabrication skills.

Andyc

23-10-2008, 06:19

that looks great keep up the good work well done to the team

Messcort mk2

12-11-2008, 23:54

Starting to look like a car now! Just getting all the pannels lined up. Start at the outer sill and find myself travelling around the car getting everything else fitted and working back!

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OZZYMC

13-11-2008, 10:02

Coming on well...Keep up the good work....

Frosticles

13-11-2008, 11:31

All I can say is........WOW :)

Banishit

13-11-2008, 12:39

looking good mate

Messcort mk2

20-11-2008, 17:38

Got a bit more work done on wednesday...Here is what I got done. Not sure if this is the done thing but I thought it was a good idea as I'm running glass fibre doors.

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Messcort mk2

05-12-2008, 22:32

Here are a couple of images of the firewall I fabricated in its place. Probably one of the hardest things I have tried to make fit!!

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC00084.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC00085.jpg

Messcort mk2

11-12-2008, 20:41

Got the bulkhead welded in place and made a brace for the turrets with some CDS.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j294/maxpenzato/DSC01341.jpg

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